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Author Topic: Glenn Whelan - Released  (Read 41895 times)

Offline KRS

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Re: Glenn Whelan - SIGNED
« Reply #360 on: April 14, 2019, 02:43:20 PM »
He's had his critics this season (myself included) but he's definitely stepped up his game in recent weeks. As long as Dean manages his game time correctly then hopefully we'll see this form continue to the end of the season.

It sounds like there may have been some changes and improvements behind the scenes (training methods, conditioning, nourishment and recovery) so may be we are now seeing the benefit of those changes as it takes a while for that kind of thing to impact player performance. I'd say that the team spirit and ethic is also a contributing factor.
« Last Edit: April 14, 2019, 02:51:18 PM by KRS »

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Re: Glenn Whelan - SIGNED
« Reply #361 on: April 14, 2019, 02:57:34 PM »
the going back to BH for massages etc, even after away games seems to be new. Although how useful it is if preceded by 2hrs  sitting on a bus is debatable.

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Re: Glenn Whelan - SIGNED
« Reply #362 on: April 14, 2019, 03:07:24 PM »
the going back to BH for massages etc, even after away games seems to be new. Although how useful it is if preceded by 2hrs  sitting on a bus is debatable.

Probably really useful after being on a bus for 2 hours

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« Reply #363 on: April 15, 2019, 12:55:47 PM »
Glen Whelan has been absolutely superb for about 6 weeks now. He was just all over the place today.

Have pointed it out before TV, but I am a bit sceptical when the performance and attitude levels of players suddenly increase as they approach the end of their contract!! 

Not claiming that is the case with Whelan, but there have been definite cases in the past I can think of (Heskey being a prime example). 

Offline Matt Collins

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Re: Glenn Whelan - SIGNED
« Reply #364 on: April 15, 2019, 10:08:21 PM »
I think Smith is encouraging him to pass the ball forward more which I think he's enjoying

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Re: Glenn Whelan - SIGNED
« Reply #365 on: April 15, 2019, 10:10:02 PM »
Glen Whelan has been absolutely superb for about 6 weeks now. He was just all over the place today.

Have pointed it out before TV, but I am a bit sceptical when the performance and attitude levels of players suddenly increase as they approach the end of their contract!! 

Not claiming that is the case with Whelan, but there have been definite cases in the past I can think of (Heskey being a prime example). 

Patrick Berger did this beautifully, the handsome devil. Never to be seen again.

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« Reply #366 on: April 15, 2019, 10:13:25 PM »
Glen Whelan has been absolutely superb for about 6 weeks now. He was just all over the place today.

Have pointed it out before TV, but I am a bit sceptical when the performance and attitude levels of players suddenly increase as they approach the end of their contract!! 

Not claiming that is the case with Whelan, but there have been definite cases in the past I can think of (Heskey being a prime example).

The whole team's performances have improved: Taylor, Elmo, Kodjia, even Jedi.

I personally don't think that Whelan has ever been as bad as some make out.  He does so much of the dirty work that people take for granted.  This kind of role is often missed by fans who all look for Jack Grealish type of performances.  My starting 11 has Whelan in it all day long.

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Re: Glenn Whelan - SIGNED
« Reply #367 on: April 15, 2019, 10:46:17 PM »


The criticism Hourihane gets on here just beggars belief and that as much as anything tells me that generally blokes (or lasses) on an internet forum know very little about football.


Unlike you, of course. 

Both have been average > poor at various stages this season.

Both are playing very well now.

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Re: Glenn Whelan - SIGNED
« Reply #368 on: April 15, 2019, 11:48:54 PM »
My concern with Whelan was always about his fitness. For 18 months he looked like he was fucked after about an hour and we'd have to start plugging gaps. Whatever has happened more recently he's lasting out games much better and it means his performances have a lot less negatives.

Offline footyskillz

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« Reply #369 on: April 16, 2019, 05:48:21 PM »
Glen Whelan has been absolutely superb for about 6 weeks now. He was just all over the place today.

Have pointed it out before TV, but I am a bit sceptical when the performance and attitude levels of players suddenly increase as they approach the end of their contract!! 

Not claiming that is the case with Whelan, but there have been definite cases in the past I can think of (Heskey being a prime example).

It's a talking point for sure. But have you thought more on this and that consideration?
 I do have to say whenever I hear these allegations of players stepping up efforts its more just bias in people commenting and ideas of thinking and not getting how it's just someone in a job. And not to mention cliche
Consider that it's not anything but rather regular in wanting to impress like one does in any work place situation when looking to see work extension .
By showing consistency and value to a work place then the deserve rewards comes.
It's another footballing myth and cliche as if it's something out of ordinary or even if it's the case. People just become more aware when a player is in form and notice that they are out of contract so make a rational decision that must be linked

As I say it's  leveled against footballers however do people really not think that people don't increase and perform when there is an incentive . This case earning a new contract at a work place.
Come on it happens in alot of industry and just human nature so me always hearing it in football circles  is a moot point and negligible.
It's a job and it's their job to earn security.

And while we at it it's same with some people who go on about Ramsey at arsenal who pre signed to glorious Juve in summer and is out of contract to the gunners . For me that's just insulting and shows more about peoples own thinking rather  that just getting the idea that he's an elite player professional in his job.

Both scenario players out of contract and either moving or staying they still choose to perform .

Whelan anyway makes effort continuously so I don't see him as someone ultra performing though he will of course have the extra incentive if he's interested in staying

And for me one year offer . He be fine competing in prem league as squad player or reduced term in prem .

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Re: Glenn Whelan - SIGNED
« Reply #370 on: April 16, 2019, 06:46:24 PM »
The criticism Hourihane gets on here just beggars belief and that as much as anything tells me that generally blokes (or lasses) on an internet forum know very little about football.
The criticism may be harsh, but I can see where it comes from.
CH arrived with a reputation for being a high performer in this division; a division that rewards teams which work hard. CH rarely seems to do the hard yards. Yes, he scores goals (not to be underestimated, of course, since that is the objective of the game).

I think what is sometimes unappreciated - and I've really only noticed it in recent games - is the fact that he makes lots of runs into the opponents' area and makes himself available to the ball-carrier; often unfulfilled.
Saturday was one which was rewarded, when he scored the second goal.

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Re: Glenn Whelan - SIGNED
« Reply #371 on: April 17, 2019, 07:03:36 AM »
The criticism Hourihane gets on here just beggars belief and that as much as anything tells me that generally blokes (or lasses) on an internet forum know very little about football.
The criticism may be harsh, but I can see where it comes from.
CH arrived with a reputation for being a high performer in this division; a division that rewards teams which work hard. CH rarely seems to do the hard yards. Yes, he scores goals (not to be underestimated, of course, since that is the objective of the game).

I think what is sometimes unappreciated - and I've really only noticed it in recent games - is the fact that he makes lots of runs into the opponents' area and makes himself available to the ball-carrier; often unfulfilled.
Saturday was one which was rewarded, when he scored the second goal.
I would suggest that the attacking the 6 yard box is relatively new.
Itís a welcome addition to his game and the team.
He has to be creating or scoring because with out the ball he is almost useless.
Hourihane I mean.

Offline Abbeyfealeavfc

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Re: Glenn Whelan - SIGNED
« Reply #372 on: April 17, 2019, 07:35:02 AM »
Any Villa fan will know what Conor's strengths are and will have known about them for quite a long time. Unfortunately we've had a succession of managers in his time at Villa who have played him as dm. As much as I'm a fan of Dean Smith, he has been guilty of this even playing Conor as dm with Whelan playing further forward earlier in the season. Thankfully this seems to have stopped. Certainly the way Glenn and McGinn are playing and with Jack back in the team it makes it difficult for Conor to start games unless Deano was to start with 4 midfielders and 1 less winger. That said Conor is a vital member of the team and squad. Any reference to terms like "useless" is a term I think is more fitting for the likes of Micah Richards.

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Re: Glenn Whelan - SIGNED
« Reply #373 on: April 17, 2019, 07:42:03 AM »
Hourihane deserves more love than he gets. As above, he is now popping up in the box more and presenting a goal threat every time he plays, not just from dead balls. I think weíre seeing it more lately because he is playing on front of a properly functioning defence and holding MF.

But in any event heís continued to consistently score and assist the whole time. Heís always going to look like he doesnít fancy it compared to SJM and jack but then 99% of players in the league would since those are two of the most ridiculous grass covering grafters youíll ever see. 

Isnít this a Whelan thread?

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Re: Glenn Whelan - SIGNED
« Reply #374 on: April 17, 2019, 09:55:02 AM »
My concern with Whelan was always about his fitness. For 18 months he looked like he was fucked after about an hour and we'd have to start plugging gaps. Whatever has happened more recently he's lasting out games much better and it means his performances have a lot less negatives.

We are keeping the ball a lot better hence less running around for Whelan and the rest of our players.