I never associated him with that sort of nonsense and I never would. We disagree on politics but I don't consider him a Nazi, FFS. Like I don't consider most of the Conservative Party to be Nazis. It goes without saying, though, that they have a high tolerance for racism. Good luck though to Pickaninnie Ads and his watermelon smile.
Quote from: ozzjim on June 24, 2017, 11:55:10 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on June 24, 2017, 11:36:16 PMQuote from: boozey182 on June 24, 2017, 11:29:39 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on June 24, 2017, 11:27:31 PMHow do you know he hasn't changed? Do you believe someone should be punished for their misdemeanours for ever?No. Just for the record, I don't want him punished. But I don't believe my club should make someone that has been guilty of that one of their highest paid players. Sorry if that wasn't clear.Well he was found guilty by the FA but not guilty by a court of law which suggests the racist thing isn't as clear cut as people are making out. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/9398132/John-Terry-found-not-guilty-of-racism-the-verdict-in-full.htmlHe maintained he said it because he was accused of it.... not the most convincing defence. I don't think he can be defended on it. Found not guilty though. Even if he did say it it's hardly the worst case of racism we've ever seen. Things are said in the heat of the moment that aren't meant. If he was as bad as many on here are making out then surely his black team mates have kicked up a fuss and refused to play with him, but nothing like that happened at all.
Quote from: saunders_heroes on June 24, 2017, 11:36:16 PMQuote from: boozey182 on June 24, 2017, 11:29:39 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on June 24, 2017, 11:27:31 PMHow do you know he hasn't changed? Do you believe someone should be punished for their misdemeanours for ever?No. Just for the record, I don't want him punished. But I don't believe my club should make someone that has been guilty of that one of their highest paid players. Sorry if that wasn't clear.Well he was found guilty by the FA but not guilty by a court of law which suggests the racist thing isn't as clear cut as people are making out. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/9398132/John-Terry-found-not-guilty-of-racism-the-verdict-in-full.htmlHe maintained he said it because he was accused of it.... not the most convincing defence. I don't think he can be defended on it.
Quote from: boozey182 on June 24, 2017, 11:29:39 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on June 24, 2017, 11:27:31 PMHow do you know he hasn't changed? Do you believe someone should be punished for their misdemeanours for ever?No. Just for the record, I don't want him punished. But I don't believe my club should make someone that has been guilty of that one of their highest paid players. Sorry if that wasn't clear.Well he was found guilty by the FA but not guilty by a court of law which suggests the racist thing isn't as clear cut as people are making out.
Quote from: saunders_heroes on June 24, 2017, 11:27:31 PMHow do you know he hasn't changed? Do you believe someone should be punished for their misdemeanours for ever?No. Just for the record, I don't want him punished. But I don't believe my club should make someone that has been guilty of that one of their highest paid players. Sorry if that wasn't clear.
How do you know he hasn't changed? Do you believe someone should be punished for their misdemeanours for ever?
I'm amazed that we still have fans standing up for this shit.Shame on you.
Quote from: cdbullyweefan on June 25, 2017, 12:05:42 AMI'm amazed that we still have fans standing up for this shit.Shame on you.Bollocks to you. I'm not standing up for racists, but unlike you I don't write people off for the rest of their lives because of a racist comment. It's possible for people to redeem themselves you know.
Quote from: saunders_heroes on June 25, 2017, 12:12:00 AMQuote from: cdbullyweefan on June 25, 2017, 12:05:42 AMI'm amazed that we still have fans standing up for this shit.Shame on you.Bollocks to you. I'm not standing up for racists, but unlike you I don't write people off for the rest of their lives because of a racist comment. It's possible for people to redeem themselves you know. You are though SH. You are trying to claim its not that bad what was said, and even tried the "alleged" route to make it seem he may not have said it at all. He did. Bollocks to you mate. You are a long way on the wrong side of this.
If people are fine with him coming, that's their choice. I'm obviously not fine with it but won't insult etc those with a different view. Maybe both sides could and should try and do that?
Quote from: saunders_heroes on June 25, 2017, 12:12:00 AMQuote from: cdbullyweefan on June 25, 2017, 12:05:42 AMI'm amazed that we still have fans standing up for this shit.Shame on you.Bollocks to you. I'm not standing up for racists, but unlike you I don't write people off for the rest of their lives because of a racist comment. It's possible for people to redeem themselves you know.Bollocks to you, you massive racist apologist. Feel free to point me in the direction of all the times that Benito Terry tried to redeen hinseld by seeing the error of his ways and apologising.You're pathetically blinded by your need to see him here and unwilling to consider the feelings of those of us that hate racism.Your tolerance of racism reflects badly on you.
Quote from: cdbullyweefan on June 25, 2017, 12:20:24 AMQuote from: saunders_heroes on June 25, 2017, 12:12:00 AMQuote from: cdbullyweefan on June 25, 2017, 12:05:42 AMI'm amazed that we still have fans standing up for this shit.Shame on you.Bollocks to you. I'm not standing up for racists, but unlike you I don't write people off for the rest of their lives because of a racist comment. It's possible for people to redeem themselves you know.Bollocks to you, you massive racist apologist. Feel free to point me in the direction of all the times that Benito Terry tried to redeen hinseld by seeing the error of his ways and apologising.You're pathetically blinded by your need to see him here and unwilling to consider the feelings of those of us that hate racism.Your tolerance of racism reflects badly on you.Jesus wept.