Quote from: cheltenhamlion on August 24, 2017, 08:34:25 AMQuote from: Percy McCarthy on August 24, 2017, 05:10:34 AMQuote from: cheltenhamlion on August 22, 2017, 06:41:54 PMQuote from: Brazilian Villain on August 22, 2017, 06:28:22 PMWell done Celtic, through 8-4 on aggregate! Let's hope they can can get a decent draw (esp. if in pot 3) and make it though the group stages.Fuck the bigoted wankers.Donald Trump posts on H&V?!They are just as bad as the other lot in Glasgow but I really can't be arsed with going round Celtic and Rangers, nor Northern Ireland politics/religion for the 10000th time, so will leave that debate there.I've been to about twenty Old Firm games, the first few as a neutral. After a fair few experiences as an English Protestant up there, staying all weekend every time, I went with the team whose fans showed absolutely no bigotry at all, rather than those whose every fibre is infected with it.As I say, it's the Donald Trump position to think the anti-bigots are as bad as the bigots. Leave it if you want, rather than expose further ignorance.
Quote from: Percy McCarthy on August 24, 2017, 05:10:34 AMQuote from: cheltenhamlion on August 22, 2017, 06:41:54 PMQuote from: Brazilian Villain on August 22, 2017, 06:28:22 PMWell done Celtic, through 8-4 on aggregate! Let's hope they can can get a decent draw (esp. if in pot 3) and make it though the group stages.Fuck the bigoted wankers.Donald Trump posts on H&V?!They are just as bad as the other lot in Glasgow but I really can't be arsed with going round Celtic and Rangers, nor Northern Ireland politics/religion for the 10000th time, so will leave that debate there.
Quote from: cheltenhamlion on August 22, 2017, 06:41:54 PMQuote from: Brazilian Villain on August 22, 2017, 06:28:22 PMWell done Celtic, through 8-4 on aggregate! Let's hope they can can get a decent draw (esp. if in pot 3) and make it though the group stages.Fuck the bigoted wankers.Donald Trump posts on H&V?!
Quote from: Brazilian Villain on August 22, 2017, 06:28:22 PMWell done Celtic, through 8-4 on aggregate! Let's hope they can can get a decent draw (esp. if in pot 3) and make it though the group stages.Fuck the bigoted wankers.
Well done Celtic, through 8-4 on aggregate! Let's hope they can can get a decent draw (esp. if in pot 3) and make it though the group stages.
Hibs are my team, in the days before readily available replica kits, if I wanted to play as a Scottish team I donned my white school shirt and a green wooly tanktop.And that Sunshine on Leith rendition in 16 is about as good a football song as you'll ever hear.
Quote from: Percy McCarthy on August 24, 2017, 12:29:55 PMQuote from: cheltenhamlion on August 24, 2017, 08:34:25 AMQuote from: Percy McCarthy on August 24, 2017, 05:10:34 AMQuote from: cheltenhamlion on August 22, 2017, 06:41:54 PMQuote from: Brazilian Villain on August 22, 2017, 06:28:22 PMWell done Celtic, through 8-4 on aggregate! Let's hope they can can get a decent draw (esp. if in pot 3) and make it though the group stages.Fuck the bigoted wankers.Donald Trump posts on H&V?!They are just as bad as the other lot in Glasgow but I really can't be arsed with going round Celtic and Rangers, nor Northern Ireland politics/religion for the 10000th time, so will leave that debate there.I've been to about twenty Old Firm games, the first few as a neutral. After a fair few experiences as an English Protestant up there, staying all weekend every time, I went with the team whose fans showed absolutely no bigotry at all, rather than those whose every fibre is infected with it.As I say, it's the Donald Trump position to think the anti-bigots are as bad as the bigots. Leave it if you want, rather than expose further ignorance.Ignorance? Piss off. What if I also have experience up there of games? Or happen to have a staunch Celtic supporting Chap in my family who is a top bloke but his family are horrific? Or maybe gotten the shit kicked out of me for being English on a night out in Glasgow by Celtic fans? Not all of those are true, but it might mean my experience is different to yours, no? Why do you have to take a position on absolutely everything where there is black or white with no shades of grey inbetween? You are expecting mean to change my view because you have decided which side are the right ones and I am a shit because it isn't who you have decided the good guys are.You have been around here a long time so will know perfectly well that I can't stand either old firm team. Why? Because I don't like how they have happily allowed The Troubles in Northern Ireland to be a huge catalyst in lining their pockets. For allowing sectarian singing to go on unabated for decades, regardless of the trouble it causes, because it isn't good for business to say anything about it.Essentially, you are asking me to pick the least worst. Like picking between Blues and Olbiyun. Or Hitler v Stalin. Or Jozef Fritzl and David O' Leary. I don't want to pick a least worst when I can't stand either of them. Why should my holiday in Tenerife be interrupted by a clown with a flute and a bunch of c***s in Orange sashs? Or some other dicks wearing balaclavas, with replica guns, threatening tourists just because the pair of wankers are playing each other at football. In Scotland. That afternoon? What you seem to struggle with is the notion it is not always good versus evil. Sometimes it might be evil versus more evil. And that people have different definitions of evil. On a glib football level you will never understand why I hate Gloucester City more than Blues. And I detest both of them.You say you did lots as a neutral at the old firm games and picked a side based on that. Well it seems you were radicalised. From the position of "take 'em as a find 'em" you once posted here your greatest hero in life is Bobby Sands.Now I am actually with you on the self determination point for the Irish. I am not ever going to agree that blowing up innocent people is the way to resolve it and Sands was a murderous twat. Just like fuckers like Adair on the other side. Or c***s like Paisley, who might have played nice with McGuinness at the end, but has plenty of blood on his hands for the positions he took over donkeys years.You say you want a debate but you don't. You just want to play at that, whilst ignoring the experiences of anyone else even though yours are always used as justification for your view and then persistently try to bend parts of the argument to try to prove yourself right.Someone gets pissed off with Dianne Abbott and it's because they are racist or a misogynst. Even if all of their posting history says otherwise. Even if what she might have said would have you out on the barricades with me if a white politician had said it. But it doesn't fit your point so let's change the argument. Rather like your utterly fucking ridiculous post comparing (Spanish) Hitler and MLK that followed this.Don't worry. I don't expect you to answer anything about your being intolerant and refusing to see that anyone else might have a different view but founded in their own experience. It isn't how you roll is it. I look forward to a response that ignores most of this post. Rather like the glib way you brush off bemoaning foreigners until the great switch.Someone calls you out on slagging foreigners pre Brexit because it is hitting your pocket? People who give you a pass based on your previous posting history (and this is important to me and this particular row), that you might want to rethink that? They were pricks at the time but now you have done a 180 degree turn and anyone that agreed with you then is now an idiot, a racist, ad nauseum.