Quote from: john e on March 07, 2017, 04:35:46 PMQuote from: Drummond on March 07, 2017, 01:02:30 PMIf we play as badly as we have over the past three games and get the same results I'll be a very happy man.It may not be pretty at times (and let's face it, it really hasn't been), but if it's effective, who cares?I'd rather win the fucking league than finish 6th and play pretty.that's fine but it's not been effective has itwe are currently 13th, nearer to the relegation spots than the play off places if your scenario was working i might be able to see that the eventual outcome was worth itas it happens we are just playing for pride for the rest of the season because Bruce has failed in what he was bought in to achieve Who said he was bought in to achieve promotion this season? Not TZ or KW who have publicly stated same, and while that might be the opinion of those who want rid, one could argue that was an increasingly impossible task given the terrible start to the season, and the squad inherited.
Quote from: Drummond on March 07, 2017, 01:02:30 PMIf we play as badly as we have over the past three games and get the same results I'll be a very happy man.It may not be pretty at times (and let's face it, it really hasn't been), but if it's effective, who cares?I'd rather win the fucking league than finish 6th and play pretty.that's fine but it's not been effective has itwe are currently 13th, nearer to the relegation spots than the play off places if your scenario was working i might be able to see that the eventual outcome was worth itas it happens we are just playing for pride for the rest of the season because Bruce has failed in what he was bought in to achieve
If we play as badly as we have over the past three games and get the same results I'll be a very happy man.It may not be pretty at times (and let's face it, it really hasn't been), but if it's effective, who cares?I'd rather win the fucking league than finish 6th and play pretty.
Could we reset the poll as the three game option has now passed and it would be interesting to see which way the 'floating' voters would go. Although not yet fully convinced I would now vote No.
Quote from: Virgil Caine on March 07, 2017, 05:38:42 PMCould we reset the poll as the three game option has now passed and it would be interesting to see which way the 'floating' voters would go. Although not yet fully convinced I would now vote No.Rather than keep resetting it, if anybody wants to change their vote they can click on "Remove vote" and they will then have the option to vote again.
I like Jedinak, he knows what he's there to do and he gets on with it. I think what people need to realise is that he's effectively an advanced central defender, take him away and one of other defenders has to come out and win those balls and we lose our shape. What we need to realise though is that if you have him in there you need to compensate by letting other players get further forward.
Quote from: paul_e on March 07, 2017, 11:31:30 AMI like Jedinak, he knows what he's there to do and he gets on with it. I think what people need to realise is that he's effectively an advanced central defender, take him away and one of other defenders has to come out and win those balls and we lose our shape. What we need to realise though is that if you have him in there you need to compensate by letting other players get further forward.And that we are unlikely to play a passing game through the midfield.
You're kidding yourself if you don't think Bruce's remit was to aim for promotion this season with the squad he had available and the money spent. The man himself has said as much. Why else opt for a promotion specialist, when there were younger up and coming managers who might have suited a more organic, long-term approach. The comments from Dr Xia and Keith Wyness about the two year timescale are similar to what they said vis a vis Di Matteo. I took that as an attempt to not publicly put the man under pressure from the off. They still made Bobby D walk the plank when our start looked like it had jeopardised our promotion bid this season.
Quote from: tomd2103 on March 07, 2017, 06:17:48 PMQuote from: paul_e on March 07, 2017, 11:31:30 AMI like Jedinak, he knows what he's there to do and he gets on with it. I think what people need to realise is that he's effectively an advanced central defender, take him away and one of other defenders has to come out and win those balls and we lose our shape. What we need to realise though is that if you have him in there you need to compensate by letting other players get further forward.And that we are unlikely to play a passing game through the midfield. Why not? As i said, consider him as a central defender, he's good enough to move the ball on to someone like Lansbury and then he's nothing but an out ball.