Quote from: Mister E on March 06, 2017, 12:29:02 PMQuote from: tomd2103 on March 06, 2017, 08:14:56 AMQuote from: sid1964 on March 06, 2017, 07:58:29 AMMovement of the ball requires a few things - someone who can move into space to receive the ball, and we need someone who can pass the ball further than 2 yards ( I don't see many of those type of footballers down the Villa, or if in truth in the Chumpionship!)Lets be honest the football is dreadful even the team that are starting to move away at the top of the table are not very good.Not sure we will be able to play that way with Jedinak in the DM role. To play that kind of game, we need someone in that role who can get on the ball and pick out passes. Jedinak has other strengths, but that is not one of them. Jedinak is getting a bum rap on here at the moment. His has good passing abilities - I think - but is involved in a scrap most of the time meaning that time on the ball is a nanosecond in this league.I don't think he has an ounce of footballing ability to be honest. It becomes abundantly clear if we go behind that he needs replacing as he offers nothing constructive, other qualities but to be honest I was expecting a lot more from him. His legs look gone in truth.I'd love to see stats in this division about the team scoring first going on to win. Newcastle's win at Brighton I think was their first win coming from behind. A lot of our games under Bruce have been horrendous to watch but Leeds away for example, the first goal was crucial in a scrappy game. Even at Newcastle we were on top until conceding.
Quote from: tomd2103 on March 06, 2017, 08:14:56 AMQuote from: sid1964 on March 06, 2017, 07:58:29 AMMovement of the ball requires a few things - someone who can move into space to receive the ball, and we need someone who can pass the ball further than 2 yards ( I don't see many of those type of footballers down the Villa, or if in truth in the Chumpionship!)Lets be honest the football is dreadful even the team that are starting to move away at the top of the table are not very good.Not sure we will be able to play that way with Jedinak in the DM role. To play that kind of game, we need someone in that role who can get on the ball and pick out passes. Jedinak has other strengths, but that is not one of them. Jedinak is getting a bum rap on here at the moment. His has good passing abilities - I think - but is involved in a scrap most of the time meaning that time on the ball is a nanosecond in this league.
Quote from: sid1964 on March 06, 2017, 07:58:29 AMMovement of the ball requires a few things - someone who can move into space to receive the ball, and we need someone who can pass the ball further than 2 yards ( I don't see many of those type of footballers down the Villa, or if in truth in the Chumpionship!)Lets be honest the football is dreadful even the team that are starting to move away at the top of the table are not very good.Not sure we will be able to play that way with Jedinak in the DM role. To play that kind of game, we need someone in that role who can get on the ball and pick out passes. Jedinak has other strengths, but that is not one of them.
Movement of the ball requires a few things - someone who can move into space to receive the ball, and we need someone who can pass the ball further than 2 yards ( I don't see many of those type of footballers down the Villa, or if in truth in the Chumpionship!)Lets be honest the football is dreadful even the team that are starting to move away at the top of the table are not very good.
Given our injury list and losing two players during the game, I think it was a decent performance against Rotherham. We did our job, despite losing one player to injury, and then his substitute to injury.
For a player with no ability Jedinak has a) had a surprisingly good career and b) makes an incredible difference to our results.
Quote from: Clampy on March 07, 2017, 08:40:05 AMI think the one important thing this season was to actually start getting used to winning football matches again. Maybe some of the quality of the football at times has taken a back seat but hopefully with confidence that will return. you might be happy with a few wins in this league but I was hoping for a quick return with the new owner and investment, or at the very least be in contention for a play off place which was not out of the question if we had a manager who was up to the job
I think the one important thing this season was to actually start getting used to winning football matches again. Maybe some of the quality of the football at times has taken a back seat but hopefully with confidence that will return.
Quote from: john e on March 07, 2017, 10:26:41 AMQuote from: Clampy on March 07, 2017, 08:40:05 AMI think the one important thing this season was to actually start getting used to winning football matches again. Maybe some of the quality of the football at times has taken a back seat but hopefully with confidence that will return. you might be happy with a few wins in this league but I was hoping for a quick return with the new owner and investment, or at the very least be in contention for a play off place which was not out of the question if we had a manager who was up to the jobI'm happy with a 'few wins'? I'm not sure why you seem so keen to put words into my mouth. We did need to start to learn to win again. Keith Wyness said exactly the same thing at the start of the season. We won 3 last season, which is something a lot of people tend to forget.
I like Jedinak, he knows what he's there to do and he gets on with it. I think what people need to realise is that he's effectively an advanced central defender, take him away and one of other defenders has to come out and win those balls and we lose our shape. What we need to realise though is that if you have him in there you need to compensate by letting other players get further forward.
If we play as badly as we have over the past three games and get the same results I'll be a very happy man.It may not be pretty at times (and let's face it, it really hasn't been), but if it's effective, who cares?I'd rather win the fucking league than finish 6th and play pretty.
Quote from: Drummond on March 07, 2017, 01:02:30 PMIf we play as badly as we have over the past three games and get the same results I'll be a very happy man.It may not be pretty at times (and let's face it, it really hasn't been), but if it's effective, who cares?I'd rather win the fucking league than finish 6th and play pretty.that's fine but it's not been effective has itwe are currently 13th, nearer to the relegation spots than the play off places if your scenario was working i might be able to see that the eventual outcome was worth itas it happens we are just playing for pride for the rest of the season because Bruce has failed in what he was bought in to achieve