Quote from: brian green on February 22, 2017, 07:40:29 AMI can just about stretch to giving Bruce some more time, entirely on the grounds that Bruce is not that much worse than his predecessors. What I do draw the line at is the acceptance of relegation into the third division so that he can continue to lurch from game to game. He is a football dinosaur brought in to do a job of work, like you might bring in Dynorod to clear your drains. When you notice that the guy seems to have turned up without his drain rods you start to worry.And instead, he's turned up with a load of wet-wipes and sanitary towels which he's jamming into the blocked drains.
I can just about stretch to giving Bruce some more time, entirely on the grounds that Bruce is not that much worse than his predecessors. What I do draw the line at is the acceptance of relegation into the third division so that he can continue to lurch from game to game. He is a football dinosaur brought in to do a job of work, like you might bring in Dynorod to clear your drains. When you notice that the guy seems to have turned up without his drain rods you start to worry.
I agree and I saw him in the same role - unglamorous hatchet man, here to sort out the mess and clear the way for a better manager, some day when a progressive cerebral garde type won't get eaten alive. But if we're talking about flirting with a spell in division 3 it doesn't add up anymore.
Better managers than Steve Bruce? Every manager in the Premiership and the manager's of the fifteen clubs above us in the second division for starters. And that is just the English league.Remi Garde's record at Lyon was stellar compared with Bruce. We gave him nothing and kicked his arse out of the door. Anybody who dared even hint that Sherwood, Garde or RDM should be allowed to drop into the third tier and keep his job would have been tarred and feathered.
disappointment of a mid-table finish.
Bruce's track record of getting teams up is the main reason for me why I'm happy to stick with him providing the season doesn't end in total disaster.
Quote from: Clampy on February 22, 2017, 07:16:32 AMBruce's track record of getting teams up is the main reason for me why I'm happy to stick with him providing the season doesn't end in total disaster.But at what point should the decision be reached? By the time it's total disaster, it'll probably be too late to make an effective change. Without at least four points from the next three games, I think the writing's on the wall.
Quote from: Boz on February 22, 2017, 09:01:43 AMQuote from: Clampy on February 22, 2017, 07:16:32 AMBruce's track record of getting teams up is the main reason for me why I'm happy to stick with him providing the season doesn't end in total disaster.But at what point should the decision be reached? By the time it's total disaster, it'll probably be too late to make an effective change. Without at least four points from the next three games, I think the writing's on the wall.I think asking for 4 points from the next three game is reasonable. If we beat or take points off the teams down there (Wigan, Rotherham, Bristol City, Burton etc) then that should be enough. Nowhere near good enough for the money we've spent though.