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Author Topic: Bruce out?  (Read 324084 times)

Offline paul_e

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #6870 on: September 24, 2017, 11:54:22 PM »
Whoscored.com do heat maps of players positions when they touch the ball.

https://www.whoscored.com/Matches/1192399/Live/England-Championship-2017-2018-Aston-Villa-Nottingham-Forest

In general their midfielders are more advanced than ours and they use both fullbacks supporting whilst we predominately use the right back.  Their center backs had twice as much of the ball as ours in a slightly more advanced position but their two center backs tended to eventually go long much more than ours did.

Elmo plays long balls far too much and gives it away.

The problem with looking at anything like that for this match is that the difference in possession means their heatmaps look 'fuller' than ours but there's 2 key bits to ours for me.  1 is how high up the pitch Adomah was compared to Snodgrass, the other is how often Whelan and Hourihane were filling in on the right, both of these back up the comments about Snodgrass from the match thread, I think he'll be fine but he had a really poor game.

The other interesting one is that Whelan completed 2 of 5 tackles and 4 in every 5 passes.  Those are the 2 things he's there to do and he was poor at both, again that backs up the criticism of him.

I stand by the original point though, if your getting people up the pitch on the heatmaps (the average position graphics are better but you have to sign up to Opta to get those) then you'll normally win, sometimes a counter-attacking team will mug you but over a season that will be the exception.  As with any stats it only means anything in context with loads of others though.

Offline Drummond

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #6871 on: September 26, 2017, 08:04:21 PM »
In the play off places as things stand...

Offline Jimbo

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #6872 on: September 26, 2017, 08:32:31 PM »
Steve Bruce isn't fat, he's cuddly.

Offline Smirker

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #6873 on: September 26, 2017, 08:42:10 PM »
I will buy him a kebab if he stays.

Offline Villafirst

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #6874 on: September 26, 2017, 09:46:41 PM »
Bruce in surely? Change the heading!

Offline PaulWinch again

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #6875 on: September 26, 2017, 09:49:11 PM »
Keep it up.

Offline Drummond

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #6876 on: September 26, 2017, 09:54:45 PM »
4 points off automatic places... Which surely buys him time. Another win on Saturday and we're going to be higher I suspect.

Online Toronto Villa

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #6877 on: September 26, 2017, 10:00:53 PM »
It shouldn't be about shoving words down our throats but if that's what is motivating him then so be it. He's brought Adomah back in after having ignored him for most of the season and it has literally changed the season. Kodjia coming back is a bonus. I'm happy we are winning. I'd like for Bruce to concentrate now on the positives and push on.

Offline SoccerHQ

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #6878 on: September 26, 2017, 10:16:19 PM »
I demand 4 wins from the September fixtures.

Nearly there.

Offline ciggiesnbeer

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #6879 on: September 26, 2017, 10:18:10 PM »
Bruce in. When he does exactly what I wanted (we played well) plus gets a kick ass result like that, well what can I do but hold up my hands and admit I was wrong? Nicely done.

Offline PeterWithe

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #6880 on: September 26, 2017, 10:20:35 PM »
When he's got us in the top two then the pressure is off a little, winning is great but we expect to be winning at Burton.


Offline clash city rocker

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #6881 on: September 26, 2017, 10:35:06 PM »
All credit to the players tonight. When we loose it's everyone's fault expect for him so the way I see it is when we ein then it is down to everyone else. You can't have it both ways Steve.

Offline Des Little

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #6882 on: September 26, 2017, 10:51:51 PM »
I think it's time to start focusing on the positives rather than grudgingly give feint praise. We are on a brilliant run and long may it continue.

Offline Louzie0

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #6883 on: September 26, 2017, 10:55:42 PM »
On a run :)

Fantastic

Offline kieron

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #6884 on: September 26, 2017, 10:56:40 PM »
He's found a formula. That's what he's paid to do, therefore he deserves credit.

Obviously if we lose the next game he's shit and must go immediately.