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Online Clampy

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #5325 on: August 30, 2017, 01:37:42 PM »
I do love the way people will spend hours/days/months on here saying something should be done, but when they're asked what exactly it is that should be done, it's not their job.
Yes a bit like the government. We tell them things need fixing but we don't fix them. It's their job. Not sure why you have a problem with it?

Yes, but you can have an opinion about what should be done to improve the health service or who would make a good prime minister. Suggesting the next manager of Aston Villa is not hard, even if it isn't your job.
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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #5326 on: August 30, 2017, 01:49:22 PM »
It's really a thought process isn't it. Existing manager is doing shit, spout about it in a message board initially saying he should go, a few days or a week later your natural thought process should have popped a name or two in your head, so even if you didn't know who to suggest straight away you would normally expect to a little while later after giving it some thought. You don't just bang on and on about it for weeks without thinking about who should come in. This is a message board after all, if someone got your thoughts the first time around it's better to elaborate on it further down the line, especially when challenged.
That's why personally, despite losing patience with Bruce I'm not desperate for him to be sacked because I can't then say who should replace him. If I could maybe I'd be more in the Bruce out camp myself.

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #5327 on: August 30, 2017, 01:56:23 PM »
It's really a thought process isn't it. Existing manager is doing shit, spout about it in a message board initially saying he should go, a few days or a week later your natural thought process should have popped a name or two in your head, so even if you didn't know who to suggest straight away you would normally expect to a little while later after giving it some thought. You don't just bang on and on about it for weeks without thinking about who should come in. This is a message board after all, if someone got your thoughts the first time around it's better to elaborate on it further down the line, especially when challenged.
That's why personally, despite losing patience with Bruce I'm not desperate for him to be sacked because I can't then say who should replace him. If I could maybe I'd be more in the Bruce out camp myself.
This is where I am, I have no idea who could realistically replace Bruce, so my only hope is he can turn things around.with arguably the strongest squad in the league

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #5328 on: August 30, 2017, 02:09:06 PM »
The problem fans have in suggesting a realistic manager is that we do not know half of the constraints/parameters that he would have to work under/to.  Only the Owner knows this, although some of this may have been delegated to Wyness.

So not knowing the terms and conditions that Steve Bruce works under should also mean you aren't allowed to comment on his performance either.

Of course you can but that was not my point. I was talking about a future manager and what the Owner's expectations are, time frame, funding, style of football etc., etc.

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #5329 on: August 30, 2017, 02:23:21 PM »
I do love the way people will spend hours/days/months on here saying something should be done, but when they're asked what exactly it is that should be done, it's not their job.
Yes a bit like the government. We tell them things need fixing but we don't fix them. It's their job. Not sure why you have a problem with it?

Yes, but you can have an opinion about what should be done to improve the health service or who would make a good prime minister. Suggesting the next manager of Aston Villa is not hard, even if it isn't your job.

there's a whole thread on next manager opinions
704 posts on 47 pages
you might not like or agree with them but for people to keep saying who can replace him as if there's no one else about is nonsense

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #5330 on: August 30, 2017, 03:01:22 PM »
Yes, but you can have an opinion about what should be done to improve the health service or who would make a good prime minister. Suggesting the next manager of Aston Villa is not hard, even if it isn't your job.
And that has been done by me and other posters. Don't really see what your point is here?

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #5331 on: August 30, 2017, 03:25:27 PM »
Yes, but you can have an opinion about what should be done to improve the health service or who would make a good prime minister. Suggesting the next manager of Aston Villa is not hard, even if it isn't your job.
And that has been done by me and other posters. Don't really see what your point is here?

I think people have a cheek, coming on  'Bruce out' thread stating that they want "Bruce out!".

Now, if we only had a thread called 'Manager suggestions' where people could suggest who they think the next manager should be.

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #5332 on: August 30, 2017, 03:36:44 PM »
If that was 'hoofball' against Norwich then give, give, give, me more, more, more.

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #5333 on: August 30, 2017, 03:51:35 PM »
If that was 'hoofball' against Norwich then give, give, give, me more, more, more.

I'm not trying to be deliberately pessimistic, but that Millwall then went and put 4 past them (whilst keeping a clean sheet) makes me think that this was perhaps more about Norwich being dreadful at the back, rather than our attacking strategy.

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #5334 on: August 30, 2017, 04:02:23 PM »
If that was 'hoofball' against Norwich then give, give, give, me more, more, more.

I'm not trying to be deliberately pessimistic, but that Millwall then went and put 4 past them (whilst keeping a clean sheet) makes me think that this was perhaps more about Norwich being dreadful at the back, rather than our attacking strategy.
A bit of both and.
Millwall's defence is obviously better than ours, despite our surfeit of internationals (or ex-internationals).

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #5335 on: August 30, 2017, 04:16:16 PM »
If that was 'hoofball' against Norwich then give, give, give, me more, more, more.
And the other 40 odd games?
How many times has he had them playing good football.

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #5336 on: August 30, 2017, 04:20:17 PM »
If that was 'hoofball' against Norwich then give, give, give, me more, more, more.
And the other 40 odd games?
How many times has he had them playing good football.


I don't know, I don't get to many matches.

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #5337 on: August 30, 2017, 04:50:16 PM »
I do love the way people will spend hours/days/months on here saying something should be done, but when they're asked what exactly it is that should be done, it's not their job.

In a similar vein, we always have some posters swearing blind that no manager would touch us if we dispense with an underperforming manager, then when that manager is replaced by a new  after all, they repeat the same argument.

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #5338 on: August 30, 2017, 04:58:01 PM »
If that was 'hoofball' against Norwich then give, give, give, me more, more, more.
And the other 40 odd games?
How many times has he had them playing good football.


The football hasn't always been great but it's hardly hoofball.

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #5339 on: August 30, 2017, 05:02:45 PM »
I'm not sure anyone in the Championship plays really great football on a regular basis. It's a pretty cack league.