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Offline ChicagoLion

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #3105 on: August 01, 2017, 03:55:12 PM »
Am I right in thinking that some want us to have a bad start so that Bruce gets sacked?

My guess is that you are definitely not right.

Very wrong in fact.
Who?

Offline Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #3106 on: August 01, 2017, 03:57:16 PM »
So genuinely - how many games does he have before he should walk?

Hull
Colchester (LC)
Cardiff
Reading
Norwich
Bristol City
Brentford (Sept)
Boro

7 league games and the cup?

If we do not have min 15 - 17 points and next round of cup then I think times up

We got 6 points in our first 7 league games last time we were promoted. 

Online paul_e

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #3107 on: August 01, 2017, 04:12:47 PM »
We might as well work to the same schedule as last year and give him until the October international break regardless*.  That's 11 games so would mean he'd had a full season of league games.  At that point top 8 and within about 3-4 points of the automatic spots is the absolute minimum we should accept.  To be in the mix for automatic promotion you need about 1.8 points per game so that's 20 points from those 11 to be roughly on target and a minimum of 16.  If he can't manage that then we're not getting promoted under him.

*within reason, 5-6 defeats on the bounce at any point and he (along with any other manager we may have at this level) should be out regardless, runs like that cannot be acceptable if we're serious about getting promoted.

Brighton finished second last season with 93 points from 46 games, so that's 2 points per match.

yep, as I say 1.8 (83 points) gets you in the mix, if you manage that for the first 30 games then you are in with a chance. If at any point from about 7-8 games much below that then you're already looking a miracle run or a play spot at best.

Offline Hookeysmith

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #3108 on: August 01, 2017, 04:16:52 PM »
Newcastles sequence last season x 18 games till end Oct in order

Lost 2
Won 6
Lost 1
Drew 1 (us)
Won 8

That is the sort of form we will need to win this league - and I am sorry I just cannot see this team doing that, going on those sort of winning runs, with Bruce in charge

I too hope I am made to look foolish I really do

Online achilles

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #3109 on: August 01, 2017, 04:34:49 PM »
He has the season now, no more changing manager mid-season, enough of that, it has got us nowhere!

If he is good enough to strart the season then he is good enough to finish it!

Online Clampy

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #3110 on: August 01, 2017, 05:14:49 PM »
Am I right in thinking that some want us to have a bad start so that Bruce gets sacked?



I'd be disapointed if fans had that mentality but let's be honest, there are some who haven't taken to the guy since he walked through the door, which is a shame but their prerogative i suppose.

Online LukeJames

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #3111 on: August 01, 2017, 05:19:52 PM »
I hadn't taken to the guy long before he walked through the door. I didn't think he was right for us before we appointed him and I still don't think he's the guy that is going to take us forward now.

However, do I want us to have a bad start to prove my point? Absolutely fucking not.

Offline Drummond

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #3112 on: August 01, 2017, 05:37:56 PM »
We could lose the first three and win the next four. 12 points but good form after a shit start.

We could win the first four and lose the next three. 12 points but shit form after a good start.

We could go WDWDLDW. 12 points and erratic form.

Which is more likely to end in the sack? Should any result in the sack?


*edited for being shit at Maths first time.
« Last Edit: August 01, 2017, 05:58:00 PM by Drummond »

Offline Ad@m

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #3113 on: August 01, 2017, 05:47:43 PM »
Based on last season I think it's safe to say the Dr won't fuck around.  If we get 10 games in and aren't within spitting distance of the top of the league I reckon Tone will pull the trigger.  It wouldn't surprise me (in fact it'd be negligent) if he hasn't already got a replacement in mind in case he has to.

Offline Matt Collins

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #3114 on: August 01, 2017, 06:32:19 PM »
Starting to think fate is conspiring against Bruce, given the injury issues

The 4411 we've played in pre season is a fundamentally different proposition with Jack behind Kodjia than with Lansbury behind Gabby or Hogan. Hope I'm wrong but I just don't think it will work based on what I've seen to date

Hopefully a solid defence will at least get us through the first 6 games until kodjia is back, and we find out a way to get hogan in the side and involved in the game

Offline cheltenhamlion

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #3115 on: August 01, 2017, 06:35:06 PM »
Hourihane behind Hogan will work just fine. As long as we try to pass the fucking ball and do it at some sort of tempo.

Offline Matt Collins

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #3116 on: August 01, 2017, 06:37:18 PM »
I'll probably have to stop saying this as it's boring me never mind others

But I am pretty sure that Hourihane never has or will be a number 10

Offline Three Spires Villa

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #3117 on: August 01, 2017, 06:44:32 PM »
I'll probably have to stop saying this as it's boring me never mind others

But I am pretty sure that Hourihane never has or will be a number 10

This 100% I haven't seen anything from him. My lad loves him for me he is meh

Offline tomd2103

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #3118 on: August 01, 2017, 06:44:45 PM »
Starting to think fate is conspiring against Bruce, given the injury issues

The 4411 we've played in pre season is a fundamentally different proposition with Jack behind Kodjia than with Lansbury behind Gabby or Hogan. Hope I'm wrong but I just don't think it will work based on what I've seen to date

Hopefully a solid defence will at least get us through the first 6 games until kodjia is back, and we find out a way to get hogan in the side and involved in the game

I get the feeling Bruce currently has Agbonlahor ahead of Hogan in the pecking order and he will be starting on Saturday.

Offline brian green

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #3119 on: August 01, 2017, 06:50:35 PM »
I think he will still play 4 4 1 1 but using Bjarnason as an alternative to Jack.  Bruce will gamble on Bjarnason hustling and bustling to some effect.