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Offline Dave

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #2535 on: May 11, 2017, 01:53:18 PM »
What is a "happy clapper"?? I'm also intrigued

I think it's one of those rattles that Leicester fans use.

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #2536 on: May 11, 2017, 01:53:18 PM »
I wouldn't say happy clapper but you have done a good job of trying to polish a turd a few times with comments like "that depends if i think our style of play is rubbish and I don't".  I think the normal style of play has been terrible, with the odd glimpse of us stepping out from that and looking capable of being much more.  The real question for me is whether those moments are because of Bruce or in spite of him.  I'm firmly of the belief that it's the latter, you seem to lean towards the former, which is fine, but I think it's a hard sell trying to convince anyone that we weren't one of the worst teams to watch last season.

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #2537 on: May 11, 2017, 02:01:31 PM »

Where MON was good at was getting the players who executed the gameplan very well.
This - for me- is the key bit: when we've seen competent opponents this season it's been those which have been well -organised and do the simple things well. Our squad has failed to keep its shape at times and certainly has failed to cherish the ball and use it simply and wisely.
That's what major spending and top 6 could get you at the time.
You don't need to spend megabucks to get well-disciplined players who can do the simple things well: what you do need is a clear plan of how you want the game to be played and find the players that will fit into the style of play. Hogan is an example of a player who obviously has some talent but has not ever looked like he fits into SB's playing plan (whatever that is).

I feel right now that SB does not know what the winning strategy should be and is prepared to risk continuing with players that have demonstrated an absence of discipline in playing to the game-plan. He needs to be more ambitious and exapansive in approach, but that does not seem to be his natural suit.
Game plan? Strategy? Style of play? What is this strange sorcery you speak of?

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #2538 on: May 11, 2017, 02:04:43 PM »
I wouldn't say happy clapper but you have done a good job of trying to polish a turd a few times with comments like "that depends if i think our style of play is rubbish and I don't".  I think the normal style of play has been terrible, with the odd glimpse of us stepping out from that and looking capable of being much more.  The real question for me is whether those moments are because of Bruce or in spite of him.  I'm firmly of the belief that it's the latter, you seem to lean towards the former, which is fine, but I think it's a hard sell trying to convince anyone that we weren't one of the worst teams to watch last season.

I'm just stating an honest opinion at the end of the day. If i don't think our style of play is rubbish, then that's genuinely what I think. You don't agree but that's ok and I can't say I care too much.

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #2539 on: May 11, 2017, 02:08:52 PM »
I wouldn't say happy clapper but you have done a good job of trying to polish a turd a few times with comments like "that depends if i think our style of play is rubbish and I don't".  I think the normal style of play has been terrible, with the odd glimpse of us stepping out from that and looking capable of being much more.  The real question for me is whether those moments are because of Bruce or in spite of him.  I'm firmly of the belief that it's the latter, you seem to lean towards the former, which is fine, but I think it's a hard sell trying to convince anyone that we weren't one of the worst teams to watch last season.

I'm just stating an honest opinion at the end of the day. If i don't think our style of play is rubbish, then that's genuinely what I think. You don't agree but that's ok and I can't say I care too much.

No need to be so defensive, I was saying that a line like that, no matter whether it is an honest opinion (and I'm not suggesting it isn't) is one that you'll have a tough time getting many people to agree with.  I'm not being controversial there because, as I say, I doubt many people would have too many good things to say about us as an attacking force.

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #2540 on: May 11, 2017, 02:11:45 PM »
I'd rather have Harry than Brucie.

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #2541 on: May 11, 2017, 02:12:34 PM »
I'd rather have someone else other than 'Arry or Brucie.

...and no, I can't think of much worse than 'Arry being manager at our club...however he is the perfect fit for the scum down the road.

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #2542 on: May 11, 2017, 02:14:56 PM »
I'd rather have Harry than Brucie.

Wow.  that's quite a statement.  Have you seen the wreckage he left behind in pretty much each and every manager job he has been in financially?  Surely its not just the dog that has been getting the sums wrong?

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #2543 on: May 11, 2017, 02:15:10 PM »
Agreed. our style of play is slow, fragmented, and blinkered in its lack of adventure. To think that our 'style' of play is not rubbish is the kind of mindset that I'd like to have but will need some truly brilliant mind-bending drugs. Its awful. Our style is awful. it doesn't lend itself to good football or an overwhelming winning 'style' Horrible. I said after our winning streak that we were just as likely to lose the last 6 as win them and that was how it turned out. Horrible.

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #2544 on: May 11, 2017, 02:15:25 PM »
I wouldn't say happy clapper but you have done a good job of trying to polish a turd a few times with comments like "that depends if i think our style of play is rubbish and I don't".  I think the normal style of play has been terrible, with the odd glimpse of us stepping out from that and looking capable of being much more.  The real question for me is whether those moments are because of Bruce or in spite of him.  I'm firmly of the belief that it's the latter, you seem to lean towards the former, which is fine, but I think it's a hard sell trying to convince anyone that we weren't one of the worst teams to watch last season.

I'm just stating an honest opinion at the end of the day. If i don't think our style of play is rubbish, then that's genuinely what I think. You don't agree but that's ok and I can't say I care too much.

No need to be so defensive, I was saying that a line like that, no matter whether it is an honest opinion (and I'm not suggesting it isn't) is one that you'll have a tough time getting many people to agree with.  I'm not being controversial there because, as I say, I doubt many people would have too many good things to say about us as an attacking force.

But why should I worry about getting people to agree with me? They don't have to if they don't want to.

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #2545 on: May 11, 2017, 02:16:45 PM »
We're just worried about you. Reaching out to you. It'll be okay.

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #2546 on: May 11, 2017, 02:18:49 PM »
We're just worried about you. Reaching out to you. It'll be okay.

You're very kind.

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #2547 on: May 11, 2017, 02:21:08 PM »
I wouldn't say happy clapper but you have done a good job of trying to polish a turd a few times with comments like "that depends if i think our style of play is rubbish and I don't".  I think the normal style of play has been terrible, with the odd glimpse of us stepping out from that and looking capable of being much more.  The real question for me is whether those moments are because of Bruce or in spite of him.  I'm firmly of the belief that it's the latter, you seem to lean towards the former, which is fine, but I think it's a hard sell trying to convince anyone that we weren't one of the worst teams to watch last season.

I'm just stating an honest opinion at the end of the day. If i don't think our style of play is rubbish, then that's genuinely what I think. You don't agree but that's ok and I can't say I care too much.

No need to be so defensive, I was saying that a line like that, no matter whether it is an honest opinion (and I'm not suggesting it isn't) is one that you'll have a tough time getting many people to agree with.  I'm not being controversial there because, as I say, I doubt many people would have too many good things to say about us as an attacking force.

But why should I worry about getting people to agree with me? They don't have to if they don't want to.

You shouldn't, but people will disagree and some will take that  abit too far, which closes the circle back to you being called a happy clapper (and once again I think it was unfair).

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #2548 on: May 11, 2017, 02:29:19 PM »
The happy clapper name calling is just something they'll learn to grow out of eventually.

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #2549 on: May 11, 2017, 03:04:21 PM »
Agreed. our style of play is slow, fragmented, and blinkered in its lack of adventure. To think that our 'style' of play is not rubbish is the kind of mindset that I'd like to have but will need some truly brilliant mind-bending drugs. Its awful. Our style is awful. it doesn't lend itself to good football or an overwhelming winning 'style' Horrible. I said after our winning streak that we were just as likely to lose the last 6 as win them and that was how it turned out. Horrible.

I agree.  If it somehow manages to get us up I'll reluctantly stomach it for another season. Strange to think I've come away from games we've won this season more annoyed than one's we've lost in previous.

Brighton away was the only half decent football I've seen us manage this season.  Maybe there are a few more but it's not a great return over the amount of games Bruce has had with us.