Quote from: RussellC on September 20, 2018, 04:29:13 PMQuote from: sirlordbaltimore on September 20, 2018, 03:30:22 PMQuote from: RussellC on September 20, 2018, 01:53:32 PMQuote from: sirlordbaltimore on September 20, 2018, 01:48:26 PMQuote from: footyskillz on September 20, 2018, 01:45:03 PMI think Bree is as capable if not more suited that elmo but he won't shift his belovedYou say that but personally i've seen nothing from Bree yet (who i rate) to suggest he can add assists or even goals from right back.Something, the ever unfashionable Elmo does. It's just a pity Bree isn't a left back. If Bruce could convert him to be one that'd be ideal for all.Or alternatively, have bought a decent left-back instead...?You may recall we'd agreed a deal to sign one in the summerWe had a deal to sign a left-back set-up at the very end of this summer's window. Bree was signed in January 2017. Without totaling exactly how much Bruce has spend between then and now, it's not really stretching it to say that Bruce could and should have addressed the left-back situation rather than stock-piling right-backs is it?There was absolutely nothing wrong with Taylor as a left back when we signed him/ In fact if we went back to a Neil Taylor thread (is there one?) i think that would be proven. He just became one of those players people suddenly started to dislike for some reason.Elmo is going the same way despite being very good at his job.And yet we have a player like Hutton, who's generally woeful that gets treated like a God.Weird game football.
Quote from: sirlordbaltimore on September 20, 2018, 03:30:22 PMQuote from: RussellC on September 20, 2018, 01:53:32 PMQuote from: sirlordbaltimore on September 20, 2018, 01:48:26 PMQuote from: footyskillz on September 20, 2018, 01:45:03 PMI think Bree is as capable if not more suited that elmo but he won't shift his belovedYou say that but personally i've seen nothing from Bree yet (who i rate) to suggest he can add assists or even goals from right back.Something, the ever unfashionable Elmo does. It's just a pity Bree isn't a left back. If Bruce could convert him to be one that'd be ideal for all.Or alternatively, have bought a decent left-back instead...?You may recall we'd agreed a deal to sign one in the summerWe had a deal to sign a left-back set-up at the very end of this summer's window. Bree was signed in January 2017. Without totaling exactly how much Bruce has spend between then and now, it's not really stretching it to say that Bruce could and should have addressed the left-back situation rather than stock-piling right-backs is it?
Quote from: RussellC on September 20, 2018, 01:53:32 PMQuote from: sirlordbaltimore on September 20, 2018, 01:48:26 PMQuote from: footyskillz on September 20, 2018, 01:45:03 PMI think Bree is as capable if not more suited that elmo but he won't shift his belovedYou say that but personally i've seen nothing from Bree yet (who i rate) to suggest he can add assists or even goals from right back.Something, the ever unfashionable Elmo does. It's just a pity Bree isn't a left back. If Bruce could convert him to be one that'd be ideal for all.Or alternatively, have bought a decent left-back instead...?You may recall we'd agreed a deal to sign one in the summer
Quote from: sirlordbaltimore on September 20, 2018, 01:48:26 PMQuote from: footyskillz on September 20, 2018, 01:45:03 PMI think Bree is as capable if not more suited that elmo but he won't shift his belovedYou say that but personally i've seen nothing from Bree yet (who i rate) to suggest he can add assists or even goals from right back.Something, the ever unfashionable Elmo does. It's just a pity Bree isn't a left back. If Bruce could convert him to be one that'd be ideal for all.Or alternatively, have bought a decent left-back instead...?
Quote from: footyskillz on September 20, 2018, 01:45:03 PMI think Bree is as capable if not more suited that elmo but he won't shift his belovedYou say that but personally i've seen nothing from Bree yet (who i rate) to suggest he can add assists or even goals from right back.Something, the ever unfashionable Elmo does. It's just a pity Bree isn't a left back. If Bruce could convert him to be one that'd be ideal for all.
I think Bree is as capable if not more suited that elmo but he won't shift his beloved
Taylor has been mostly extremely rubbish, with a handful of barely competent games thrown in. It's not a weird reason, he's just been shit. Not everybody rates Elmo, but I would guess that the majority of posters think he's been good at right back, which is his best position. I know I do. Hutton isn't the greatest player in the world but he's had some good games worthy of comment, and importantly he's a lot better than Taylor.
Taylor has not been the sane since he broke Coleman's leg.
Quote from: Nastylee on September 20, 2018, 10:41:53 PMTaylor has not been the sane since he broke Coleman's leg. Agree with this, he was doing well for us prior to that, he was either taken out of the limelight or just shaken but either was his confidence and ability appear to be shot .
Quote from: brentastonb6 on September 21, 2018, 12:20:22 AMQuote from: Nastylee on September 20, 2018, 10:41:53 PMTaylor has not been the sane since he broke Coleman's leg. Agree with this, he was doing well for us prior to that, he was either taken out of the limelight or just shaken but either was his confidence and ability appear to be shot .Personally I don't think he was doing all that well anyway, he was more solid in defence than Amavi but he was offering nothing going forward and, by playing 2 left backs, he had a lot of support in front of him. After Coleman he looked scared to tackle and it exposed the fact that it was all he was really offering.If it were me I'd have let Hutton leave in the summer, promoted Mitch Clark up into the squad and worked on developing him into the player he could be. It still gives a problem that he's naturally right footed but, from what I've seen, his left isn't just for standing on.
Quote from: paul_e on September 21, 2018, 01:31:10 AMQuote from: brentastonb6 on September 21, 2018, 12:20:22 AMQuote from: Nastylee on September 20, 2018, 10:41:53 PMTaylor has not been the sane since he broke Coleman's leg. Agree with this, he was doing well for us prior to that, he was either taken out of the limelight or just shaken but either was his confidence and ability appear to be shot .Personally I don't think he was doing all that well anyway, he was more solid in defence than Amavi but he was offering nothing going forward and, by playing 2 left backs, he had a lot of support in front of him. After Coleman he looked scared to tackle and it exposed the fact that it was all he was really offering.If it were me I'd have let Hutton leave in the summer, promoted Mitch Clark up into the squad and worked on developing him into the player he could be. It still gives a problem that he's naturally right footed but, from what I've seen, his left isn't just for standing on.It would be nice to see Mitch Clark have a go, but no way would I have wanted to let Hutton go and leave him as our only viable option at left back (I don't see Taylor as an option, he is truly awful). But yes, I'd have like to seen Hutton & Clark fight it out for the role.
Quote from: chrisw1 on September 21, 2018, 09:30:34 AMQuote from: paul_e on September 21, 2018, 01:31:10 AMQuote from: brentastonb6 on September 21, 2018, 12:20:22 AMQuote from: Nastylee on September 20, 2018, 10:41:53 PMTaylor has not been the sane since he broke Coleman's leg. Agree with this, he was doing well for us prior to that, he was either taken out of the limelight or just shaken but either was his confidence and ability appear to be shot .Personally I don't think he was doing all that well anyway, he was more solid in defence than Amavi but he was offering nothing going forward and, by playing 2 left backs, he had a lot of support in front of him. After Coleman he looked scared to tackle and it exposed the fact that it was all he was really offering.If it were me I'd have let Hutton leave in the summer, promoted Mitch Clark up into the squad and worked on developing him into the player he could be. It still gives a problem that he's naturally right footed but, from what I've seen, his left isn't just for standing on.It would be nice to see Mitch Clark have a go, but no way would I have wanted to let Hutton go and leave him as our only viable option at left back (I don't see Taylor as an option, he is truly awful). But yes, I'd have like to seen Hutton & Clark fight it out for the role.For me the problem is getting rid of Taylor wasn't an option but Hutton had left, I agree that I'd rather have it the other way but 2 senior, well paid, players in every position (and 3 or 4 in some cases) is unsustainable and means our young players are getting to 21-22 having barely been on the bench let alone seen game time, which is no good for anyone. From there they almost inevitably leave for nothing. I'm convinced it's going to happen with Clark and Suliman, probably RHM and O'Hare as well.
All but about half a dozen posts are about how shit Taylor played. Plus a weird Will Hughes tangent. http://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=57034.90
Quote from: Risso on September 20, 2018, 09:30:19 PMTaylor has been mostly extremely rubbish, with a handful of barely competent games thrown in. It's not a weird reason, he's just been shit. Not everybody rates Elmo, but I would guess that the majority of posters think he's been good at right back, which is his best position. I know I do. Hutton isn't the greatest player in the world but he's had some good games worthy of comment, and importantly he's a lot better than Taylor. Each to their own. I'd have Ian Taylor at left back now ahead of Hutton personally.
Quote from: PeterWithesShin on September 20, 2018, 08:57:27 PMAll but about half a dozen posts are about how shit Taylor played. Plus a weird Will Hughes tangent. http://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=57034.90Having quickly skimmed the first 8 pages it seems the usual grumpy fuckers were moaning about him before he'd even kicked a ballI don't recall him being anything other than competent when he first signed personallyMind you, we had a large portion of our supporters that used to dislike Alan Wright as wellWhat can you do ?