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Author Topic: RHM  (Read 24411 times)

Offline brian green

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Re: RHM
« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2017, 07:14:49 AM »
If we lose him I shall be very disappointed.  Just like I was disappointed to lose Marc Albrighton and  Adama Traore both discarded by us but adding ability to teams well above us.  A club that buys "ready made" players like McCormack, Elphick and Gestede has very little room to follow a hard line financial policy towards emerging young players.  I have followed RHM's career closely.  He would walk into a lower half Premiership side.  I am not suggesting a money is no object attitude to him or anybody else, just an across the board attitude to player value.  The use of the team sheet to whip players into line is a very crude instrument that often provokes intransigence. See Tshibola.

Offline frank black

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Re: RHM
« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2017, 07:34:10 AM »
It's a difficult one isn't it. Players/agents have the power in these situations and will push as far as possible for the best deal and who could blame them. Seems like a waste developing your own players if you can't at least get a full transfer value upon sale. I guess he knows what he can earn elsewhere and is asking us to match or beat it.

Offline Hairbandinho

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Re: RHM
« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2017, 07:42:39 AM »
Meh.Never even broke through during our worst few seasons in history so is he actually any good?

Sure he will look better than he really is in that league just like Sinclair.. I doubt he will be missed. Obviously not up for the fight to displace the first team strikers here.

Offline Axl Rose

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Re: RHM
« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2017, 07:51:07 AM »
Probably furious that Agbonlahor is in instead of him. Still, no player is bigger than the club.

Offline brian green

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Re: RHM
« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2017, 07:56:46 AM »
Yes, he is that good. Twenty times the player Gabby Agbonlahor is who is probably on fifty times his wages.

Offline Dave

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Re: RHM
« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2017, 07:57:45 AM »
Meh.Never even broke through during our worst few seasons in history so is he actually any good?

He's eighteen years old. At which point in the last few seasons do you think he should have "broken through"?

Offline Ads

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Re: RHM
« Reply #21 on: January 06, 2017, 08:07:01 AM »
He's 18 and doesn't want to play for the club her alleges to support by signing a contract that would make 99.99% of 18 year olds eyes bleed it would be so much.

Fuck off sunshine.
« Last Edit: January 06, 2017, 08:08:57 AM by Ads »

Offline villabear

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Re: RHM
« Reply #22 on: January 06, 2017, 08:19:27 AM »
The 'modern game' - having to give 'promising youngsters' lucrative contracts to keep them at the club.

He obviously being advised by his agent et al but it is coming across a bit Billy Big Bollox isn't it?

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: RHM
« Reply #23 on: January 06, 2017, 08:35:50 AM »
I'd like to have seen more of him last season and this, but fuck him. He seems a decent prospect but he's 18, done sod all so far and is only on the first rug of the ladder. Bit early in your career to be thinking above your station.

Offline Bestmate

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Re: RHM
« Reply #24 on: January 06, 2017, 08:47:55 AM »
I'd like to have seen more of him last season and this, but fuck him. He seems a decent prospect but he's 18, done sod all so far and is only on the first rug of the ladder. Bit early in your career to be thinking above your station.

This is agent fuelled . Don't  want this kid to leave. Far too good  a prospect.

Offline eamonn

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Re: RHM
« Reply #25 on: January 06, 2017, 08:49:07 AM »
In hindsight maybe Sherwood giving him a debut at 16 gave him early delusions of grandeur.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: RHM
« Reply #26 on: January 06, 2017, 08:58:01 AM »
I'd like to have seen more of him last season and this, but fuck him. He seems a decent prospect but he's 18, done sod all so far and is only on the first rug of the ladder. Bit early in your career to be thinking above your station.

This is agent fuelled . Don't  want this kid to leave. Far too good  a prospect.

I don't want him to go either, but even more I don't want some 18 year old that's done sod all acting Billy Big Balls. There's a massive jump from very good prospect to very good footballer. Farrelly, Moore brothers etc, and countless others around the country, have been big prospects at 16-18 and ultimately not done much.

Offline chrisw1

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Re: RHM
« Reply #27 on: January 06, 2017, 09:03:13 AM »
I don't see why we don't let him play if he can contribute right now.  Hutton & Bunn can leave for free in the summer and he's still playing them.  It doesn't seem to me that we have a strong enough squad to just leave valuable assets out the team for negotiating reasons - like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Of course it works both ways and does sound like he is being a bit of a knob.

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Re: RHM
« Reply #28 on: January 06, 2017, 09:05:17 AM »
I don't see why we don't let him play if he can contribute right now.  Hutton & Bunn can leave for free in the summer and he's still playing them.  It doesn't seem to me that we have a strong enough squad to just leave valuable assets out the team for negotiating reasons - like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Of course it works both ways and does sound like he is being a bit of a knob.

Difference is (probably) that we haven't offered either of them a contract.

Offline chrisw1

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Re: RHM
« Reply #29 on: January 06, 2017, 09:12:22 AM »
I don't see why we don't let him play if he can contribute right now.  Hutton & Bunn can leave for free in the summer and he's still playing them.  It doesn't seem to me that we have a strong enough squad to just leave valuable assets out the team for negotiating reasons - like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Of course it works both ways and does sound like he is being a bit of a knob.

Difference is (probably) that we haven't offered either of them a contract.
Yes of course.  But still, if he is an asset we should use him.  Particularly when he is prepared to use Gabby