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Author Topic: The Cricket Thread 2017  (Read 103794 times)

Offline PaulWinch again

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1335 on: November 23, 2017, 07:43:33 AM »
We need to counter attack now, it was fine when Vince and Stoneham were going but we're going nowhere and we're losing wickets. We need to put the pressure back on them.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1336 on: November 23, 2017, 07:57:53 AM »
We need to counter attack now, it was fine when Vince and Stoneham were going but we're going nowhere and we're losing wickets. We need to put the pressure back on them.

We are effectively 8 down given what their pace attack will do to our tail. Just really Bairstow left that can cause them problems. I'm not sure a quick couple of boundaries from Moeen followed by him chucking his wicket away will help us much. I'd rather see us still 4 down at the end of the day, even if we only add a handful more runs.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1337 on: November 23, 2017, 08:33:17 AM »
To only manage 196 in a day is pretty slow going these days.  The game is really finely balanced now and I just worry that without Stokes our lower order looks a little fragile.  That said, if Ali and Malan can build a good partnership tomorrow and get us up to around 300 then we should be in a decent position. 

It is a positive that the batsmen who had doubts over them scored some runs today. 
« Last Edit: November 23, 2017, 09:07:20 AM by tomd2103 »

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1338 on: November 23, 2017, 09:32:22 AM »
In fairness, it wasn't 196 "in a day" as there wasn't a full day's play. Still slow going, admittedly. We had picked up the speed in the last half and hour or so. Hopefully the run rate will improve further if Moeen hangs around.

Really need the middle/tail order to score well. 350 will give us a chance. 250 and we are already staring into the abyss.

At least it starts half an hour earlier tonight.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1339 on: November 23, 2017, 09:44:08 AM »
Honours are just about even after the first days play. Usually in an Ashes series the side that is on top after the first day are the ones who hit the ground running. Now for our misfiring batting line up to score well without Cook & Root contributing is a positive thing and sets us up well for the series.

Did anyone else thing there was a hell of a lot of turn in the pitch for day one of a test?

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1340 on: November 23, 2017, 09:50:19 AM »
Over in Brisbane, every Aussie we have met has been typically loud mouthed and brash, weather isn’t great here so there will be rain delays, if conditions today are replicated in the morning then England definitely want to bowl first.
Cant wait for it, need to shove their words down their throats.

Spent quite a while in 0z 94 to 95.  Was in Brisbane for about 3 weeks on the West End.  I found it an odd place.  A big city but quite a tame and limited night life.  Is it still the same? Although had a very memorable night when a lovely fit young lady and I jumped the fence into a newly opened artificial beach and pool complex on the south bank about 3am (still 29 degrees) and went skinny dipping until chased out by a very angry rotund security guard.  Happy days.

From what I’ve seen so far, there’s plenty of nightlife, Southside is good, Riverside massively overpriced and full of idiots, been trying to avoid anywhere with a lot of England fans as well there’s and element of England football here, actually had a few choruses of “10 German Bombers” today.

As for the cricket, Australia have a slight advantage, they have a new ball in the morning , Ali and Malan have to survive the first hour or we are in trouble.

Finally..”The Gabbatoir”? They were doing Mexican waves! I have coughed things up that were scarier than that place today.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1341 on: November 23, 2017, 10:10:44 AM »
I don't really think it's even more 60/40 weighted in favour of the Aussies. A lot is resting on the two batsmen at the crease at the moment.  If one of them goes cheaply tomorrow morning, then I think we'll struggle to get towards 300.  There's always the possibility of a Moeen slog though I suppose, if wickets start to fall quickly.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1342 on: November 23, 2017, 10:47:19 AM »
I don't really think it's even more 60/40 weighted in favour of the Aussies. A lot is resting on the two batsmen at the crease at the moment.  If one of them goes cheaply tomorrow morning, then I think we'll struggle to get towards 300.  There's always the possibility of a Moeen slog though I suppose, if wickets start to fall quickly.

There are still Barstow and Woakes to come. I think it depends on how we deal with the new ball. Negotiate that, continue with the positive approach and we can post a competitive score. It also looks like a good toss to have won, Moeen could have a field day in the 4th innings.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1343 on: November 23, 2017, 10:50:28 AM »
I think it's pretty even.  Looking at both teams it's hard to see many games where the first innings is much beyond 300 if all the pitches play like this.  With the current pair and Bairstow and Woakes to come I think we're a decent bet for that, The scoring rate is pretty slow but that's ok because today was all about showing that we're not the sacrificial lamb that some were suggesting.  I think tomorrow could be the key day for this one, if we see off the new ball with a bit of flair we'll go into their innings much more confident than we might have been.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1344 on: November 23, 2017, 11:16:09 AM »
Funny day really, could've been better, could've been much worse. The main thing from an England point of view was the confidence it'll give Stoneman, Vince and Malan that they do belong in the Ashes Test arena. 

It's one of those often used phrases in Cricket to say the next session is vital but with the game so evenly balanced tomoorow mornings session is massive in the context of this game, maybe even the series.

I think I'd have taken 196-4 at the start of play though.




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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1345 on: November 23, 2017, 11:19:43 AM »
Agreed OzVilla. I was going to say more or less what you have said. This is very good start for England I think and the 3 new guys will take immense confidence from it.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1346 on: November 23, 2017, 11:30:43 AM »
Funny day really, could've been better, could've been much worse. The main thing from an England point of view was the confidence it'll give Stoneman, Vince and Malan that they do belong in the Ashes Test arena. 

It's one of those often used phrases in Cricket to say the next session is vital but with the game so evenly balanced tomoorow mornings session is massive in the context of this game, maybe even the series.

I think I'd have taken 196-4 at the start of play though.

Probably 1 wicket too many to be entirely satisfactory.  196-3 would have been a bit more comfortable as would 250-4. 

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1347 on: November 23, 2017, 11:44:23 AM »
did anyone watch the BT coverage ? I saw a bit and thought it was bland, may be I am missing Bumble, Holding, Gower etc...

196/4...I would of took that before play started, need to bat until at least tea tomorrow :)

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1348 on: November 23, 2017, 11:47:06 AM »
did anyone watch the BT coverage ? I saw a bit and thought it was bland, may be I am missing Bumble, Holding, Gower etc...

196/4...I would of took that before play started, need to bat until at least tea tomorrow :)

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Who have they got in the team?  I didn't even realise they'd got the rights for it until it was mentioned here the other day.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1349 on: November 23, 2017, 11:57:32 AM »
did anyone watch the BT coverage ? I saw a bit and thought it was bland, may be I am missing Bumble, Holding, Gower etc...

196/4...I would of took that before play started, need to bat until at least tea tomorrow :)

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Who have they got in the team?  I didn't even realise they'd got the rights for it until it was mentioned here the other day.

Found it, mostly a TMS setup with a few extra aussies and a specialist presenter:

Matt Smith
Alison Mitchell
Vaughan
Boycott
Swann
Ponting
Fleming
Glichrist