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Offline Percy McCarthy

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1005 on: August 29, 2017, 05:19:10 PM »
This could well be a match winning partnership for the West Indies.  We're going to have to do something pretty special to wrestle back momentum now.   

Looks like the draw is now less likely and one side will end up winning it, with Windies surely now being favourites. 

Should be some last session.

I think they're cruising to victory. Stupid declaration at 1-0 in the final test.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1006 on: August 29, 2017, 05:24:08 PM »
This could well be a match winning partnership for the West Indies.  We're going to have to do something pretty special to wrestle back momentum now.   

Looks like the draw is now less likely and one side will end up winning it, with Windies surely now being favourites. 

Should be some last session.

I think they're cruising to victory. Stupid declaration at 1-0 in the final test.

Yep, people criticised Cook for being overly cautious with his declarations but Root's hopefully learnt a valuable lesson in this test.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1007 on: August 29, 2017, 06:11:48 PM »
And yet I've just heard Michael Atherton and Michael Holding saying what a good declaration it was and no blame should be attached there.

Nobody on here ever seems happy with the timing of the declaration!

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1008 on: August 29, 2017, 06:22:39 PM »
And yet I've just heard Michael Atherton and Michael Holding saying what a good declaration it was and no blame should be attached there.

Nobody on here ever seems happy with the timing of the declaration!

Yes, there seems a lot of opinion on the BBC feed that Root did the right thing and well done the Windies for chasing it down.

I wonder if the opinion would be the same had it been Australia in the Ashes instead of the plucky little Windies...

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1009 on: August 29, 2017, 06:24:14 PM »
Maybe England could have batted until close but I think the declaration was the right thing to do.
I'd add that pretty much every T.M.S. person thought it was the correct decision.

It's made for a great days cricket.


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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1010 on: August 29, 2017, 06:54:09 PM »
Well done West Indies great effort. England were poor, but hopefully this is a launch pad for the Windies.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1011 on: August 29, 2017, 07:41:58 PM »
Well done West Indies a superb test match win.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1012 on: August 29, 2017, 07:46:04 PM »
There was nothing wrong with declaration. 321 was a good target to set however not being able to win from that position is not good enough and not being able to defend is very poor cricket. Broad and Anderson as senior quick strikers must take this on the chin and reevaluate their own effectiveness.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1013 on: August 29, 2017, 08:13:53 PM »
Great viewing, well done the Windies, under the circumstances Shai Hope's knock must go down as one of the great Test innings.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1014 on: August 29, 2017, 08:24:03 PM »
Disappointing day today. I think that the declaration was OK, you should be able to bowl a team out for under 320 in a fourth innings.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1015 on: August 29, 2017, 08:49:23 PM »
Very good win for the Windies and hopefully they can build on that.  World cricket needs as many strong teams as possible and hopefully a few of those currently in test exile will see that and want to return.  Gabriel coming back was a big boost for them and dismissing us pretty cheaply in the first innings gave them a bit of confidence.

As for us, that poor first innings really cost us.  I didn't think the declaration was that bad a decision, but Woakes looked undercooked in terms of bowling and we missed Roland-Jones, who has been a good foil for Broad and Anderson this summer.

Sets the decider at Lords up nicely now.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1016 on: August 29, 2017, 09:10:37 PM »
Woakes needs bowling in his legs, he was well down in this game.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1017 on: August 29, 2017, 09:52:57 PM »
Nothing wrong with that declaration, a game that was a true game on day 5 was such a brilliant rarity....much rather a sporting declaration than an overly cautious one.

Agree ref missing Roland-Jones but hopefully that test will be the miles in Woakes legs as in the bigger picture he is a better 3rd seamer.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1018 on: August 29, 2017, 10:43:18 PM »
And yet I've just heard Michael Atherton and Michael Holding saying what a good declaration it was and no blame should be attached there.

Nobody on here ever seems happy with the timing of the declaration!

I was quite happy with it. 9/10 you win a match from that position. England just didn't bowl brilliantly and dropped easy catches. Not Root's fault.

Hopefully this will have a happy side effect of reigniting love for the test game in the Caribbean.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1019 on: August 30, 2017, 12:02:21 AM »
Nothing wrong with that declaration, a game that was a true game on day 5 was such a brilliant rarity....much rather a sporting declaration than an overly cautious one.

Agree ref missing Roland-Jones but hopefully that test will be the miles in Woakes legs as in the bigger picture he is a better 3rd seamer.

I agree regarding Woakes and although he made a telling contribution with the bat, he looked undercooked with the ball.  He is undoubtedly the best option as the third seamer when fully fit, but I don't know if this was a bit too soon for him.  Roland-Jones has had a very good summer and must consider himself very unlucky to be dropped.