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Offline Andy Poole

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #810 on: August 05, 2017, 07:51:44 PM »
Didn't see his innings but love Bairstow, easily my favourite cricketer. He's a lovely fella too.

You wouldn't have enjoyed it Chris. Too many 4's and even a 6. Not Test match Cricket at all.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #811 on: August 06, 2017, 01:30:40 AM »
Didn't see his innings but love Bairstow, easily my favourite cricketer. He's a lovely fella too.

You wouldn't have enjoyed it Chris. Too many 4's and even a 6. Not Test match Cricket at all.


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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #812 on: August 06, 2017, 01:36:42 AM »
Didn't see his innings but love Bairstow, easily my favourite cricketer. He's a lovely fella too.

Was discussed earlier Chris, but there is going to be an ongoing debate about where he should bat for England.  I think the headache is going to come when Woakes comes back and everyone is fully fit.  A 6,7,8,9 of Stokes, Bairstow, Ali and Woakes looks a very strong unit, but it would mean that only two out of Wood, Roland-Jines,  Broad and Anderson could be picked.  We are still going to need a five after this series, so moving Bairstow up to there and moving Ali and Woakes to 7 and 8 could be an option, but will we really need 5 seamers? 

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #813 on: August 06, 2017, 11:46:14 AM »
Didn't see his innings but love Bairstow, easily my favourite cricketer. He's a lovely fella too.

Was discussed earlier Chris, but there is going to be an ongoing debate about where he should bat for England.  I think the headache is going to come when Woakes comes back and everyone is fully fit.  A 6,7,8,9 of Stokes, Bairstow, Ali and Woakes looks a very strong unit, but it would mean that only two out of Wood, Roland-Jines,  Broad and Anderson could be picked.  We are still going to need a five after this series, so moving Bairstow up to there and moving Ali and Woakes to 7 and 8 could be an option, but will we really need 5 seamers? 

Exactly, adding a 6th bowler isn't needed because it just means 1-2 get massively under-bowled.

I'd leave that lot where they are, Roland-Jones is competition/backup for the all rounders and Wood is backup for Jimmy and Broad.

As it stands for me I'd be looking at this for the windies series:

Cook
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Westley?
Root
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Stokes
Bairstow
Ali
Woakes
Broad
Anderson

I'm not fully convinced by Westley but I think he's worth keeping in, Jennings and Malan are concerns, we shouldn't be messing with the bottom 6 right now.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #814 on: August 06, 2017, 01:15:17 PM »
I can see Broad and Anderson getting one test off each in the Windies series. Not just to give them a break but also to give TRJ some more games.

Is there anyone with express pace in the county game that could be looked at with a view to taking them to Aus ?

Mills would be great but unfortunately that's not going to be possible.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #815 on: August 06, 2017, 01:16:01 PM »
Meanwhile, SA could be bowling themselves back into the game.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #816 on: August 06, 2017, 01:22:14 PM »
I can see Broad and Anderson getting one test off each in the Windies series. Not just to give them a break but also to give TRJ some more games.

Is there anyone with express pace in the county game that could be looked at with a view to taking them to Aus ?

Mills would be great but unfortunately that's not going to be possible.

Resting one (or both) is fine but they're still the first choices at 10 and 11.

There's no one frighteningly quick coming through because the youngsters with the potential to bowl at 90+ are all trained to swing the ball rather than working on their pace, because swing bowling is so effective in England.  Mills is an anomaly because he wanted to bowl quick and only ever wanted to work on his pace.  The chances of someone coming through the county system ready to bowl at 90mph with any consistency are, in my opinion, almost nil and only a change to the structure will do anything to address that.  How many genuine quicks have we had in the last 30 years?

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #817 on: August 06, 2017, 01:27:28 PM »
Meanwhile, SA could be bowling themselves back into the game.

I doubt it, another 60-70 (lead of 250-260) and we're favourites, once the lead gets to 300 it's pretty much game over.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #818 on: August 06, 2017, 02:10:36 PM »
Jennings and Malan gone cheaply again.  The pitch doesn't look great for the left handers though, seems to have cut up pretty badly.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #819 on: August 06, 2017, 02:38:29 PM »
Jennings shot was terrible.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #820 on: August 06, 2017, 03:08:53 PM »
I know Jennings is out of nick, but his passivity and lack of movement is infuriating. Reminds me of Chris Tavare, only not as effective.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #821 on: August 06, 2017, 03:29:02 PM »
Does anyone else think that Duane Olivier looks a bit like Luis Suarez?

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #822 on: August 06, 2017, 03:35:00 PM »
Lead up to 270 and I think that's already a hard chase, the pitch is horrible to score off and there's enough inconsistency that there's always the chance for one to deviate off the pitch.  Ball is definitely on top.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #823 on: August 06, 2017, 03:41:53 PM »
We would have to bowl exceptionally poorly for SA to even get close to what the lead is at the moment.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #824 on: August 06, 2017, 03:46:55 PM »
Would still want the score up to around 320, for scoreboard pressure as much as anything else.