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Offline olaftab

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #960 on: August 25, 2017, 04:04:00 PM »
England once again showing a weak streak that is always there. Need to eliminate this before the ashes otherwise it could be very tough tour.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #961 on: August 25, 2017, 04:09:37 PM »
Agreed, I still think Hameed is the opener to persevere with. I also think Hales at 5 might make sense.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #962 on: August 25, 2017, 05:35:54 PM »
Ordinary at best batting performance.

WI let us off the hook quite a bit to be honest. Could have easily bowled us out for 150-175 if they'd taken some pretty simple chances.


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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #963 on: August 25, 2017, 05:58:54 PM »
Are the West Indies now officially the Windies?

One of the commentators earlier said West Indies but then corrected himself by saying; "sorry, I mean Windies'

I suppose, "English speaking part of the Caribbean and a small bit of South America" is too long

Offline Andy Poole

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #964 on: August 25, 2017, 06:08:32 PM »
Windies has been adopted as the 'Brand'


You'd have thought they'd make sure their cricket was worthy of being referred to a a 'brand' first!

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #965 on: August 25, 2017, 07:01:08 PM »
Much better bowling performance from the Windies and they've exposed our problems at the top of the order again.  Seeing as they have frailties in their batting line up as well then it could be quite an exciting test. 

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #966 on: August 26, 2017, 12:47:33 AM »
England's refusal to bow to conventional cricket logic is a bit baffling. Why is Root in at 4 and not 3? The abject failure of the top order has shown he's fine against the new ball, so why not just go with it? Why isn't Buttler even apparently in contention for Tests when Westley etc are given multiple tries? Buttler has at least shown the ability to take on international attacks. It's such a weird, ornate dance that the selectors are prancing around common sense. Just do the obvious for once, and see if it works.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #967 on: August 26, 2017, 12:50:02 AM »
England's refusal to bow to conventional cricket logic is a bit baffling. Why is Root in at 4 and not 3? The abject failure of the top order has shown he's fine against the new ball, so why not just go with it? Why isn't Buttler even apparently in contention for Tests when Westley etc are given multiple tries? Buttler has at least shown the ability to take on international attacks. It's such a weird, ornate dance that the selectors are prancing around common sense. Just do the obvious for once, and see if it works.

I think the rumour is that Root himself wants to bat at four and feels most comfortable there. 

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #968 on: August 26, 2017, 01:19:21 AM »
I'm sure he does, but right now he's practically batting at two and would help sort out a selection conundrum by going in at 3.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #969 on: August 26, 2017, 08:04:50 AM »
England's refusal to bow to conventional cricket logic is a bit baffling. Why is Root in at 4 and not 3? The abject failure of the top order has shown he's fine against the new ball, so why not just go with it? Why isn't Buttler even apparently in contention for Tests when Westley etc are given multiple tries? Buttler has at least shown the ability to take on international attacks. It's such a weird, ornate dance that the selectors are prancing around common sense. Just do the obvious for once, and see if it works.

Buttler will surely go to Oz, and I did wonder why they haven't given him another go, even if his Test average (31) is so-so for 30 innings. However, unless I'm barking up the wrong tree, he has only two 1st Class innings all season with and average of 10! Even so, I'd recall him.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #970 on: August 26, 2017, 09:10:17 AM »
Buttler hasn't got enough red ball runs for Lancs. Something he admits himself.

Hales asked to bat down the order for Notts, he's scored well and should be in the Ashes squad.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #971 on: August 26, 2017, 10:41:05 AM »
I'm sure he does, but right now he's practically batting at two and would help sort out a selection conundrum by going in at 3.

It doesn't really solve the selection issue, it just shoves it to number four.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #972 on: August 26, 2017, 10:42:08 AM »
Buttler hasn't got enough red ball runs for Lancs. Something he admits himself.

Hales asked to bat down the order for Notts, he's scored well and should be in the Ashes squad.

Need to look at Hales at five in this series really. 

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #973 on: August 26, 2017, 10:52:04 AM »
Buttler hasn't got enough red ball runs for Lancs. Something he admits himself.

Hales asked to bat down the order for Notts, he's scored well and should be in the Ashes squad.

Need to look at Hales at five in this series really. 

Yep, that's the change I'd be going with, Hales has earned a chance and he's shown that he's not overawed at international level with some very good ODI and iT20 performances.

I don't know what we do about 2-3 but I'd leave Root where he is for now (and I wouldn't try to solve anything by moving any of the middle/lower order up either).

Could it be worth a look at Buttler opening and tell him to swing a bit and try to see off the opening bowlers quickly.  It's not a long term solution I'm happy with but someone to make real use of the early pace and duff the leather up a bit, it might also spread the field a little sooner if we're piling on some early runs.  Right now we neither score big or quick so if we can't find someone to bring the former then lets give the latter a go and see if we can get teams on the back foot.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #974 on: August 26, 2017, 11:24:53 AM »
If we don't get the top order sorted, the Aussies are going to run riot.