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Offline PaulWinch again

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #615 on: July 17, 2017, 11:41:08 AM »
Ballance fails again with his standard technical failing.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #616 on: July 17, 2017, 11:44:52 AM »
I'm more than happy for him to return to Yorkshire, really missed his runs. Could do with Bairstow and Root back as well...

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #617 on: July 17, 2017, 11:50:06 AM »
I'm not usually one for chopping and changing but they must make changes at 1 and 3 for the next Test. I appreciate Ballance scores lots of County Championship runs but he's never looked like he's been good enough at the highest level. Technical flaws get exposed and his are routinely exposed now.

Jennings too is just not technically good enough right now. They'll ruin another openers career if they aren't careful.

I'm not sure who they turn to but it really can't be these 2. Shudder to think how Starc, Cummins, Hazlewood and Pattinson would work them over in the Winter on quick Aussie pitches.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #618 on: July 17, 2017, 12:15:49 PM »
Root bowled....gonna be all over by tea

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #619 on: July 17, 2017, 12:31:57 PM »
I'm not usually one for chopping and changing but they must make changes at 1 and 3 for the next Test. I appreciate Ballance scores lots of County Championship runs but he's never looked like he's been good enough at the highest level. Technical flaws get exposed and his are routinely exposed now.

Jennings too is just not technically good enough right now. They'll ruin another openers career if they aren't careful.

I'm not sure who they turn to but it really can't be these 2. Shudder to think how Starc, Cummins, Hazlewood and Pattinson would work them over in the Winter on quick Aussie pitches.

As Bob Willis said after the first test, this is Ballance's last chance and he will be dropped quickly if he doesn't perform.  I expect Jennings will be given more time, but will be moved to three.  Stoneman is the next cab off the rank isn't he? 

Part of the problem is that the top three are all left handers and it means bowlers can settle on a line and length quite early.   
« Last Edit: July 17, 2017, 02:22:08 PM by tomd2103 »

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #620 on: July 17, 2017, 01:33:01 PM »
For all the impressive stuff England have done in One-Day cricket over the last year or two, our batting options at Test level look very limited.

Options to come in at the top of the order are people like Hameed (hasn't hit a 50 in something like 10 innings for Lancs), Hales (one-day specialist for me) and then a host of Jennings-type players who I don't think could step up.

As for Ballance, although he is another Hick/Ramprakash who looks unlikely to ever be good enough for England, surely he should have been batted at no.5 where he has averaged over 100 for Yorkshire this summer?

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #621 on: July 17, 2017, 02:44:33 PM »
When we are good we are very good. When we are bad we are truly awful.

We have lost a considerable amount of tests in the last year and our batsmen seem incapable of applying themselves and grafting an innings.

In the last few years we've lost Strauss, Pietersen, Trott and Bell and their runs have not been replaced which is concerning.

I susepct Ballance was a Captain's pick by Joe Root, they're mates after all. Ballance has never fixed the technical flaws in his game so he needs to be jettisoned. I'd stick with Jennings and recall Hameed who seemed to have the temperament for opening in test cricket. He's out of form at the moment so selection may give him a timely boost. Woakes should return for Dawson and Ali should be the first choice spinner.

Welcome to captaincy Joe, I suspect the victory in your first test was just papering over the cracks.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #622 on: July 17, 2017, 03:00:09 PM »
Truly dreadful performance. These collapses are unacceptable.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #623 on: July 17, 2017, 03:01:22 PM »
That was a stuffing

TMS were saying that SA bowled well but there must have been a bit of cantbearsed about the England batting

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #624 on: July 17, 2017, 03:08:31 PM »
There is a lack of application and technique in our line up.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #625 on: July 17, 2017, 03:22:10 PM »
There is a lack of application and technique in our line up.

Geoffrey's stick of rhubarb springs to mind.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #626 on: July 17, 2017, 03:37:53 PM »
Truly dreadful performance. These collapses are unacceptable.

Agree, that was a pretty pathetic effort.  It was almost as if they knew the game had gone and just folded.  As someone mentioned above, for all the strides we have made in the shorter formats of the game over the past couple of years, we seem to be regressing pretty badly in test matches.  On reflection, Root's 190 saved us in the first test. 

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #627 on: July 17, 2017, 07:38:57 PM »
Having seen the highlights agree with all the above comments, but gotta give full credit to South Africa superb bowling, fielding and captaincy by Du Plessis.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #628 on: July 18, 2017, 12:33:58 PM »
New US Cricket League to Launch in 2020:

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A U.S. professional sports development team has tapped the Atlanta office of JLL to scout sites in the metro area — and seven other states — for a newly established professional cricket franchise. Global Sports Ventures announced last year that it entered into a $70M licensing agreement with the USA Cricket Association to establish eight professional cricket teams in North America, spending an estimated $2.4B on infrastructure and business development.

While no specific sites have been identified yet, JLL International Director David Demarest has been tapped by Philadelphia-based GSV to scout Atlanta and seven other cities for stadium sites: New York; East Brunswick, New Jersey; Washington, D.C.; Orlando, Florida; Dallas; Chicago; and San Francisco. The plan is to launch the initial eight teams in time to start a season in 2020, officials said, after which the league will expand by as many as six other markets.

Demarest is no stranger to complex stadium deals, having been involved in talks between the Atlanta Braves and Cobb County for the development of SunTrust Park and the surrounding mixed-use project.

“We know our plans are ambitious, and GSV is committed to launching a professional cricket league in the U.S. by 2020,” GSV Chairman Jignesh “Jay” Pandya stated in an email release.

Each cricket stadium is projected to cost between $70M and $125M with an ancillary mixed-use component of up to $100M each. The projects could include a stadium, parking, a clubhouse, restaurants, hotels, retail, residential and office space, officials said. Officials said the first sites should be revealed in the near future. JLL could not be reached for comment as of press time.


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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #629 on: July 18, 2017, 01:18:44 PM »
The thing that's frustrating me about England's batting is that whilst bringing in any replacements for Dawson/Ballance/Jennings is a risk, there are no County Championship games going on during July at all, so there is no way of seeing who is in form, getting a closer look at their technique etc. Shoddy scheduling from the ECB, again in this country we don't help our national side enough.