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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #600 on: July 15, 2017, 02:34:36 PM »
However many times we got back to Ballance, he just isn't good enough.Time to bring Buttler back.

I don't think Ballance is a number 3 and doesn't look like he is going to be the answer there.  We have really struggled to replace Strauss and Trott at the top of the order.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #601 on: July 15, 2017, 02:37:33 PM »
Ballance is just like Hick and Key, too good at county level to ignore but out of their depth at test level.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #602 on: July 15, 2017, 04:11:03 PM »
Bizarre one there.  Dawson was nowhere near that!

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #603 on: July 15, 2017, 04:32:46 PM »
Dawson is shit nowhere near international quality.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #604 on: July 15, 2017, 04:33:47 PM »
England have struggled to cope with English conditions.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #605 on: July 16, 2017, 12:29:15 PM »
Looking forward to us chasing down a target of 873 for the greatest win in test history.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #606 on: July 16, 2017, 12:41:50 PM »
The quick scoring rates now mean that games can be taken away for teams pretty quickly.  We're looking at dereat within four days here.

On reflection, Root's 190 in the first test might have masked our problems.
« Last Edit: July 16, 2017, 11:23:01 PM by tomd2103 »

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #607 on: July 16, 2017, 03:37:14 PM »
The team is just set up wrong. Dawson and Ballance shouldn't be playing.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #608 on: July 17, 2017, 12:05:09 AM »
The team is just set up wrong. Dawson and Ballance shouldn't be playing.

I agree about the balance of the side Paul, it's not quite right.  It's going to be interesting when Woakes comes back, as really we need to get another batsman in the side.  The batting line up is now beginning to look very fragile, something we really don't need going into an Ashes series this coming winter.  Stokes, Woakes and Ali play for me, so we either go with Broad, Anderson and Wood as well or leave one of those three out and bring in an extra batsman.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #609 on: July 17, 2017, 12:39:10 AM »
The team is just set up wrong. Dawson and Ballance shouldn't be playing.

I agree about the balance of the side Paul, it's not quite right.  It's going to be interesting when Woakes comes back, as really we need to get another batsman in the side.  The batting line up is now beginning to look very fragile, something we really don't need going into an Ashes series this coming winter.  Stokes, Woakes and Ali play for me, so we either go with Broad, Anderson and Wood as well or leave one of those three out and bring in an extra batsman.

No worries lads, we won't even be putting out a team the way things are going down here.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #610 on: July 17, 2017, 01:29:23 AM »
The team is just set up wrong. Dawson and Ballance shouldn't be playing.

I agree about the balance of the side Paul, it's not quite right.  It's going to be interesting when Woakes comes back, as really we need to get another batsman in the side.  The batting line up is now beginning to look very fragile, something we really don't need going into an Ashes series this coming winter.  Stokes, Woakes and Ali play for me, so we either go with Broad, Anderson and Wood as well or leave one of those three out and bring in an extra batsman.

No worries lads, we won't even be putting out a team the way things are going down here.

Can't see it not happening.  The backlash from the public would be too great wouldn't it?

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #611 on: July 17, 2017, 06:48:36 AM »
The team is just set up wrong. Dawson and Ballance shouldn't be playing.

I agree about the balance of the side Paul, it's not quite right.  It's going to be interesting when Woakes comes back, as really we need to get another batsman in the side.  The batting line up is now beginning to look very fragile, something we really don't need going into an Ashes series this coming winter.  Stokes, Woakes and Ali play for me, so we either go with Broad, Anderson and Wood as well or leave one of those three out and bring in an extra batsman.

No worries lads, we won't even be putting out a team the way things are going down here.

Can't see it not happening.  The backlash from the public would be too great wouldn't it?

Yeah, most likely someone will crack before things get too hot - sadly, I think it'll be the players, as I get the sense that public sentiment's slightly against them at this stage, even though it comes off to me as a classic bit of divide and rule by Cricket Australia.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #612 on: July 17, 2017, 07:12:37 AM »
The problem has always been England's top order. We can't find anyone to open with Cook, we can't find anyone to go in at 3. And we someone to nail down number 5. i didn't see the sense in going back to ballance because in the long term he won't come good. We should try every 'new' batsman for an entire series before we discard them but I don't think jennings is good enough. The dropped lancashire player (name? Umeed?) I think will be fine and I don't mind him being dropped now. Make him work harder to get back and stay in the team). I think the 4-5-6-7 are Root, Bairstow,Stokes, Ali but it is too attacking at times. That's why I'd shift root up to 3, move bairstow to 6, Stokes 7, and bring Ali up to 5 - except that he bats well where he is. But by moving Root to 3 there's no obvious candidate for 4.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #613 on: July 17, 2017, 11:18:23 AM »
Jennings and Ballance, decent Test level bowlers will sort these out which isn't good enough for 1 and 3.

TBF though, Jennings is out of his depth but young enough to come back at Test level,  Ballance is just out of his depth.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #614 on: July 17, 2017, 11:22:42 AM »
Not convinced on Jennings at all.