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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #525 on: July 06, 2017, 12:55:05 PM »
We've made our usual poor start to a test series, particularly when playing at Lords.  The top three is really becoming a problem.

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« Reply #526 on: July 06, 2017, 12:59:29 PM »
So Dawson is going to play. Hopefully he does well but he feels like a bit of a 90s selection for me. It's a bit of a weird squad all around.

Agree Paul, seems like he is there to fill an 'all-rounder' spot really rather than offer a real threat with either bat or ball.  Might as well have played an extra batsman really.

I'd guess his job is to, as you say, add depth to the batting but also to occupy an end for long stints without going for loads of runs.  I don't care if he takes wickets, if he can make himself difficult to score off and bowl a long spell then you can give Wood, Broad and Jimmy short sharp spells at the other end and keep them all fresh.  It's the job Bresnan did for a while and that Woakes does with extra wicket taking.

Surely that is Moeen's role Paul?  I did say it before, so not just reacting to the poor start today, but we may as well play an extra batsman in the line up. 

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #527 on: July 06, 2017, 01:06:07 PM »
So Dawson is going to play. Hopefully he does well but he feels like a bit of a 90s selection for me. It's a bit of a weird squad all around.

Agree Paul, seems like he is there to fill an 'all-rounder' spot really rather than offer a real threat with either bat or ball.  Might as well have played an extra batsman really.

I'd guess his job is to, as you say, add depth to the batting but also to occupy an end for long stints without going for loads of runs.  I don't care if he takes wickets, if he can make himself difficult to score off and bowl a long spell then you can give Wood, Broad and Jimmy short sharp spells at the other end and keep them all fresh.  It's the job Bresnan did for a while and that Woakes does with extra wicket taking.

Surely that is Moeen's role Paul?  I did say it before, so not just reacting to the poor start today, but we may as well play an extra batsman in the line up. 

Maybe it should be but it's not what they've used him for.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #528 on: July 06, 2017, 01:17:55 PM »
He may prove me wrong but I just don't think
Ballance has the technique to play against quality pace bowling.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #529 on: July 06, 2017, 01:38:37 PM »
I agree on Ballance, he's very strong against medium pace and solid against moderate spin but the step up in pace and quality just seems too much for him.  It's all a bit Graeme Hick.

Back to Dawson, just for the record I don't think he should be anywhere near the test team, I was just offering ideas for why they've decided to give him a go instead of someone like Roland-Jones who'd have been my pick to cover for Woakes.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #530 on: July 06, 2017, 02:42:13 PM »
3:40pm on the BBC FB page; "Faceboycs Live" :)

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #531 on: July 06, 2017, 03:02:38 PM »
Not watching but heard as well as yet again failing to score runs, Ballance told Jennings not to review his LBW shout when he would have been given not out, and then selfishly reviewed his own LBW when he was plum.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #532 on: July 06, 2017, 03:33:00 PM »
Decent partnership from Root and Stokes.

Both need to continue to bat for a long time now.

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« Reply #533 on: July 06, 2017, 03:39:40 PM »
Yep.  A good recovery, but you get the feeling this partnership needs to take the score up near 300. 

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« Reply #534 on: July 06, 2017, 03:41:32 PM »
I agree on Ballance, he's very strong against medium pace and solid against moderate spin but the step up in pace and quality just seems too much for him.  It's all a bit Graeme Hick.

Back to Dawson, just for the record I don't think he should be anywhere near the test team, I was just offering ideas for why they've decided to give him a go instead of someone like Roland-Jones who'd have been my pick to cover for Woakes.

Oh I agree Paul.  They've gone for someone who offers a bit of batting and bowling, whereas I think they would have been better going for one or the other. 

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #535 on: July 06, 2017, 04:11:40 PM »
No need for that from Stokes whatsoever. 2 men back on the boundary, so at most would have got a single for the shot, whilst at the same time potentially getting out in a couple of ways.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #536 on: July 06, 2017, 04:21:14 PM »
No need for that from Stokes whatsoever. 2 men back on the boundary, so at most would have got a single for the shot, whilst at the same time potentially getting out in a couple of ways.

That's where he's still a risk of letting himself down, sometimes he'll try to play a shot that just isn't needed, sometimes he'll try to bounce someone out when the play is to bowl full, etc.  I like him a lot and I think he's getting better and reigning himself in well most of the time but 'the inner chimp' still slips out every now and then.

Great captains knock from Root though, if Ali and Dawson can stick with him we can still post a competitive target here, which is a big positive from where we were.

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« Reply #537 on: July 06, 2017, 04:24:23 PM »
No need for that from Stokes whatsoever. 2 men back on the boundary, so at most would have got a single for the shot, whilst at the same time potentially getting out in a couple of ways.

That's where he's still a risk of letting himself down, sometimes he'll try to play a shot that just isn't needed, sometimes he'll try to bounce someone out when the play is to bowl full, etc.  I like him a lot and I think he's getting better and reigning himself in well most of the time but 'the inner chimp' still slips out every now and then.

Great captains knock from Root though, if Ali and Dawson can stick with him we can still post a competitive target here, which is a big positive from where we were.

We really need Root to get a big ton and Moeen to get a score as well to ease a bit of pressure on the lower order.   

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #538 on: July 06, 2017, 04:32:21 PM »
There's the ton, Root is a great player to watch when he's playing like this, he creates gaps for himself brilliantly.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #539 on: July 06, 2017, 04:33:27 PM »
Root is quickly becoming my favourite sports person. Leading by example