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Author Topic: The Cricket Thread 2017  (Read 103770 times)

Offline paul_e

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #135 on: February 14, 2017, 01:46:42 PM »
I'm ok with that, bringing a pie-chucker on for 1-2 overs as something different is what Cook just didn't like to do and it's why so often we'd drift in that 40-60 over period where the ball is too soft for swing and not scuffed enough to reverse.  The plan, far too often, was Mo at one end and just cycle through the quicks opposite him to try to waste the overs as cheaply as possible.  Remember Root has 15 wickets from the little 'fuck it' spells he'a been given so far so it's not a crazy idea to make him a bit more of a 'go to' partnership breaker.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #136 on: February 14, 2017, 02:08:44 PM »
Didn't Root bring himself on in one game while Cook was off the field and take a couple of wickets ?

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #137 on: February 16, 2017, 10:57:44 AM »
Yes, against India in December.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #138 on: February 16, 2017, 08:01:44 PM »
You've got to be proactive and try and break the rythmn and concentration of the set batsmen, especially when the new ball is still 20 overs away. You always get the odd part timer with a knack for breaking partnerships.

I really rated Cook; wins in India, Australia and South Africa is top stuff, but I agree he'd let things drift. Too often he'd set fields for the bad ball rather than going for the jugular. England are forever getting on top and letting it slip.


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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #139 on: February 17, 2017, 09:54:19 AM »
The Eng Lions struggling in Sri Lanka - currently 219/8. 1st day of 4. Jennings out for 20 odd, Hameed 4.

No Warwickshire players.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #140 on: February 18, 2017, 09:02:07 AM »
The Eng Lions struggling in Sri Lanka - currently 219/8. 1st day of 4. Jennings out for 20 odd, Hameed 4.

No Warwickshire players.

The Lions turned the game around pretty well. We scored 316 all out and bowled Sri Lanka A out for 167. We're 24-2 in our second innings and rain has stopped play. Hameed was out for a duck though.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #141 on: February 24, 2017, 10:31:45 AM »
India are struggling against the Crims, 105 all out in a home test. They lost their last 7 wickets for 11 runs. A collapse of England-esque proportions!

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #142 on: February 24, 2017, 01:04:33 PM »
Why couldnt they have batted like that against us FFS! They were shocking.

Then they managed to have Smith dropped 3 times on his way to a horrible looking fifty.  He looks like a club cricketer at times Smith, bloody horrible to watch, but always gets runs.

India were utterly dreadful today.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #143 on: February 25, 2017, 07:56:13 AM »
India have been terrible, but the Aussie spinners have actually bowled well and having Starc shows the difference of having real pace in the attack.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #144 on: February 25, 2017, 09:51:34 AM »
They rolled over in the second innings too, 107 all out.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #145 on: February 26, 2017, 02:35:10 PM »
We're becoming too much of a bits and pieces test team. no real strike bowler anymore with bags of pace and the spinning option is extremely limited. The batting has become confused in knowing whether to stick or twist. The effect of 20/20 has shown itself negatively in the teat arena. There is more reasons (excuses) for the lack of a spin option but we are terrible here. Other than Swann and Panesar very sporadically, Tufnell a little bit, we haven't really produced spinners in this country since the 70s and maybe early 80s. The batting lacks character and leadership so hopefully having Root as captain will allow for a player to lead from the front as Cook seemed able to do only when he was playing well.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #146 on: February 26, 2017, 05:33:56 PM »
We're becoming too much of a bits and pieces test team. no real strike bowler anymore with bags of pace and the spinning option is extremely limited. The batting has become confused in knowing whether to stick or twist. The effect of 20/20 has shown itself negatively in the teat arena. There is more reasons (excuses) for the lack of a spin option but we are terrible here. Other than Swann and Panesar very sporadically, Tufnell a little bit, we haven't really produced spinners in this country since the 70s and maybe early 80s. The batting lacks character and leadership so hopefully having Root as captain will allow for a player to lead from the front as Cook seemed able to do only when he was playing well.
Monty Panesar now Aussie spin bowling coach.....

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #147 on: February 26, 2017, 05:54:31 PM »
We haven't produced a top class spinner since the rules were changed about covering pitches.

I don't think T20 has been negative for test cricket in this country. In fact I'd say that it has brought about a massive improvement in the standards of fielding. Players are more athletic in the field now and gone are the days when you had to hide a lumbering fast bowler like Harmison out on the boundary.

We will have to ensure that tests and not T20 are still viewed as the pinnacle of the game in this country. Sadly that is not the case in other countries.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #148 on: March 02, 2017, 04:58:36 PM »
Hales and Ball out injured for first ODI tomorrow.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #149 on: March 03, 2017, 01:08:45 PM »
It looks like rain in Antigua will delay the start.