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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1275 on: November 16, 2017, 08:17:54 AM »
Talking about women’s cricket remember that game is in its infancy. In time popularity will lead to greater participation and natural selection will prevail with better athletes coming through that will lead to eliminating most of the current short comings.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1276 on: November 16, 2017, 10:29:26 AM »
The Australian lineup for the first test has reportedly been leaked, and there's been a couple of odd decisions - Shaun Marsh in for Maxwell, and perhaps more bafflingly, Tim Paine pretty much out of the cold in to replace Wade as keeper.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1277 on: November 16, 2017, 10:49:14 AM »
The Australian lineup for the first test has reportedly been leaked, and there's been a couple of odd decisions - Shaun Marsh in for Maxwell, and perhaps more bafflingly, Tim Paine pretty much out of the cold in to replace Wade as keeper.

Shaun Marsh is an enigma but has the technique to score runs at Test level and Paine would have been the keeper for the last 3 years Atleast had it not been for injury. They've treated Peter Nevill like shit though, is Renshaw in?

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1278 on: November 16, 2017, 10:49:54 AM »
I hope that causes unrest within their squad and journos further inflame it by criticising ACB.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1279 on: November 16, 2017, 11:19:49 AM »
The Australian lineup for the first test has reportedly been leaked, and there's been a couple of odd decisions - Shaun Marsh in for Maxwell, and perhaps more bafflingly, Tim Paine pretty much out of the cold in to replace Wade as keeper.

Shaun Marsh is an enigma but has the technique to score runs at Test level and Paine would have been the keeper for the last 3 years Atleast had it not been for injury. They've treated Peter Nevill like shit though, is Renshaw in?

Renshaw out - kinda harsh on him, but he's had a slow start to the season whereas Bancroft has been in sensational form.

Marsh doesn't make sense on any level though - not the incumbent, not in any better form, much older, doesn't bowl, inferior fielder, as much of a boom-bust player as Maxwell.

EDIT: I should say, this could still all be total bollocks, everyone's just really antsy, I suppose.
« Last Edit: November 16, 2017, 11:28:17 AM by passitsideways »

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1280 on: November 17, 2017, 12:47:01 PM »
Warm up game going well even if the standard of opposition is questionable.  It is obviously a long series, but I'm just increasingly getting the feeling that the first innings of the first test could be crucial in determining what follows.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1281 on: November 17, 2017, 01:46:40 PM »
It's good that Stoneman and Malan have centuries to their name now. I think the Aussie squad selection is interesting, for all the talk of England's squad they seem to have pushed the panic button a bit with their batting.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1282 on: November 18, 2017, 08:30:44 AM »
I'd drop Broad. He's a passenger these days.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1283 on: November 18, 2017, 08:35:08 AM »
That's a pretty horrible last day from the bowlers. I appreciate it's a flat pitch but still it's not a great boost to the confidence.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1284 on: November 18, 2017, 09:26:09 AM »
I'd drop Broad. He's a passenger these days.

Broad can hold up an end whilst not conceding many runs thus allowing other bowlers to attack more. He's an important part of our bowling unit.

Our successful Ashes campaigns have had a workhorse bowler. Hoggard in 2005, Bresnan in 2010/11 are prime examples. Broad has enough experience & know how to frustrate a batsman until they make a mistake. He's not immune to being dropped but he's enough credit for the time being.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1285 on: November 18, 2017, 07:15:18 PM »
Overton's bowling in this game has made the selection decision between him and Ball interesting. He has not bowled well at all, the thing in his favour generally is he's a better bat. But his performance has opened that decision again.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1286 on: November 18, 2017, 08:05:13 PM »
I'd go with Overton personally because I think the tail is just too long if you have Ball in there.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1287 on: November 18, 2017, 08:51:40 PM »
I don't disagree in principle but we're in no position to carry a bowler whoever plays.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1288 on: November 18, 2017, 09:31:09 PM »
I'm as pessimistic about our chances going into an Ashes series as I've been for 15 years if I'm honest.  I dont think we'll score the runs required and our attack looks weak without Stokes to back up Anderson and Broad. Personally I think we'll get hammered again.

The only thing that gives me any optimism is the fact that this Aussie side really isn't all that, certainly as weak a batting line up as they've had in years. But home advantage and their pace attack will be too strong for us. 4-0 Australia.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1289 on: November 18, 2017, 10:49:02 PM »
I'm as pessimistic about our chances going into an Ashes series as I've been for 15 years if I'm honest.  I dont think we'll score the runs required and our attack looks weak without Stokes to back up Anderson and Broad. Personally I think we'll get hammered again.

The only thing that gives me any optimism is the fact that this Aussie side really isn't all that, certainly as weak a batting line up as they've had in years. But home advantage and their pace attack will be too strong for us. 4-0 Australia.

Why ignore Woakes, he's a better bowler than Stokes and Broad?

I honestly don't know how this series will go, I think both teams are in a fragile place and 1 poor innings could make or break either but I think their batting is every bit as weak as ours and whilst they have more pace in their attack I don't think they're as accurate as you need at this level.  I think we'll see lots of 300-400 scores and all the tests will be decided by 1-2 key sessions.