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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1065 on: September 07, 2017, 06:48:28 PM »
From the little bit I've seen the conditions and the pitch really aren't suited to trying to dig in, look at cook, he played it safe and then got done by an absolute beauty that was almost unplayable.

When Stokes and Malan played a little more aggressively it looked a little easier.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1066 on: September 07, 2017, 06:54:44 PM »
Yeah you've definitely got to try to get the bowlers out of a rhythm.

Difficult to do under lights when the red ball is harder to pick up though in fairness

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1067 on: September 07, 2017, 06:58:18 PM »
Yeah you've definitely got to try to get the bowlers out of a rhythm.

Difficult to do under lights when the red ball is harder to pick up though in fairness

Oh I agree, I was just pointing out that the way we approached the innings looked like we were scared to play shots and it looked better when we went for it a little more.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1068 on: September 07, 2017, 07:03:05 PM »
Yeah agreed.

Westley must be really struggling to make Australia now, barring a very substantial effort in the second dig I can't see how he can go.

Stoneman needs another score also as he doesn't look convincing.

I would love it if they had the balls to go with a top 3 of Cook, Duckett and Livingstone, and really take it to the Aussies. Can't see it though

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1069 on: September 07, 2017, 07:10:32 PM »
I like Malan, I reckon he has something to his game and some grit.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1070 on: September 07, 2017, 07:21:06 PM »
I like Duckett but I'm not sure about Livingstone, he looked totally unprepared for international cricket in the T20s a few months back, maybe he's more suited to tests but I think he'd be a big risk now.

What's happened to Bell-Drummond?  I liked the look of him but he seems to have, like Hain, completely lost his way in the longer format and improved in the short forms instead.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1071 on: September 07, 2017, 07:22:50 PM »
I like Duckett too they've got rid of him far too fast.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1072 on: September 07, 2017, 07:31:43 PM »
Hameed scored 88 off 250 balls, hopefully he's found a bit of form.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1073 on: September 07, 2017, 07:34:10 PM »
Yeah and it sounded like it was in very tough conditions.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1074 on: September 08, 2017, 12:03:00 AM »
From the little bit I've seen the conditions and the pitch really aren't suited to trying to dig in, look at cook, he played it safe and then got done by an absolute beauty that was almost unplayable.

When Stokes and Malan played a little more aggressively it looked a little easier.

Yep, I think Stokes went out with the intent to be aggressive.  If conditions stay the same then anything approaching a 100 run first innings lead might turn out to be very handy,

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1075 on: September 08, 2017, 06:31:33 AM »
Yesterday's play reminded me of one of those limited overs finals that used to be the last game of the season at Lords. If you won the toss you asked the opposition to bat and you generally won the game because the ball did all sorts. Playing a test at Lords in September hardly makes for an even contest between bat and ball.

Something about Lords in September makes the ball swing prodigiously and I guess that vindicated the decision to play Roland-Jones ahead of Woakes.

 

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1076 on: September 08, 2017, 09:50:36 AM »
In fairness it was horrendous conditions to bat in, and only Root can be classed as giving his wicket away.

Shannon Gabriel in particular bowled one or 2 brilliant balls at around 92/93 mph and seaming all over the place

Great days cricket

This is all true, and what a fine sight for us cricketing purists it is to see a West Indian fast bowler steaming in and bowling 90+mph seamers.
But the fact is our top order, with the exception of Cook and Root, have looked brittle for a long, long time and we don't look anywhere near finding a new opener or number 3. It's a worry heading for Australia and we now have no more time to correct it.


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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1077 on: September 08, 2017, 11:40:35 AM »
Malan gets a beauty just before the rain.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1078 on: September 08, 2017, 11:56:44 AM »
One play that I'm always puzzled on, in terms of lack of selection, is Ben Foakes. I know he's a wicketkeeper, but he's a bloody good batsman and has a lot of talent.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2017
« Reply #1079 on: September 08, 2017, 11:56:51 AM »
In fairness it was horrendous conditions to bat in, and only Root can be classed as giving his wicket away.

Shannon Gabriel in particular bowled one or 2 brilliant balls at around 92/93 mph and seaming all over the place

Great days cricket

This is all true, and what a fine sight for us cricketing purists it is to see a West Indian fast bowler steaming in and bowling 90+mph seamers.
But the fact is our top order, with the exception of Cook and Root, have looked brittle for a long, long time and we don't look anywhere near finding a new opener or number 3. It's a worry heading for Australia and we now have no more time to correct it.



Quite so.  A very good bowling attack, some superb all rounders in Stokes and Moeen, an excellent middle order, but a top order made of glass.