Manchester - Capital of Football

[damon loves JT]

Mancunians have no self awareness. That is their major flaw. Brummies are charming and self deprecating where Mancunians are brash and irritating.

They just don't get why anyone would think Manchester is shit.

I'm from Bham but have family up in the North West and I think Manchester is better. It has a better atmosphere, nightlife, and more of a thriving business culture in the centre than Brum does. That's without mentioning the two successful football teams and the extra trade for bars/hotels and the feelgood factor that brings.

I'm just going to say that I prefer Brummies to Mancs, and leave it there.

[Jimbo]

Birmingham can comfortably claim the title of second city when it starts acting its size.

Most of Birmingham's achievements come from its ordinary people, individuals that work hard and achieve great things off their own bat. Our Michelin star restaurants are testament to that.

There's some inbuilt entrepreneurism and ingenuity about the people here, which ensures Birmingham keeps going despite all the shit thrown at it by the UK media and governments of all stripes. Its resilience is undeniable.

When it comes to civic leadership, however, it is sadly lost, and has been for a number of years. This might explain why Manchester, a city half Birmingham's size, has better public transport, museums, venues, facilities etc., and will be hosting the official Olympic Parade while Birmingham has to wait for the launch of the Michelin guide each year to get its moment in the sun.

Once we get the leadership right and the city begins to act its size, like a city of over 1 million people (and growing), then we'll be unstoppable. In order to get there, we must recognise those shortcomings in leadership.

Give the people of Birmingham the city they deserve and they will repay that city with their unbridled creativity and enterprise, not bluster and self-important blather like the Mancs.

[Risso]

I like both places and the people from both cities immensely, and I don't subscribe to the stereotypes associated with them. They have more in common  than they realise.

[AV82EC]

I like both places and the people from both cities immensely, and I don't subscribe to the stereotypes associated with them. They have more in common  than they realise.

Ain't that the truth.

[joe_c]

The Beeb's entirely unbiased article on the matter:

'Snubbed City'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-37542370

Oh, and the Beeb have conveniently ignored Peels when begrudginlgy stating that Brum has 5 stars.  I'm sure they'd have done the same if Salford had got a star.

"I don't know what they see in Birmingham that they don't see in Manchester," he whined.

[damon loves JT]

I don't think anyone needs to justify preferring one place to another.

[LeeB]

New one in Solihull, Peel's at Hampton Manor.

That's good to hear, had my wedding reception there and it's probably the best meal I've ever eaten.

[itbrvilla]

The Beeb's entirely unbiased article on the matter:

'Snubbed City'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-37542370

Oh, and the Beeb have conveniently ignored Peels when begrudginlgy stating that Brum has 5 stars.  I'm sure they'd have done the same if Salford had got a star.

"I don't know what they see in Birmingham that they don't see in Manchester," he whined.

Also ' to most people Manchester is the second city' ******

[LeeB]

Manchester is the capital of a post-truth society.

[Chris Jameson]

To be fair to Manchester it's got some fucking great record shops.

[Stu]

To be fair to Manchester it's got some fucking great record shops.

Yep. I can only think of Swordfish that is decent now, in Brum, and that's hidden down a city centre cul-de-sac.

There were loads more only 15 years ago. I wonder where the business went that meant they had to close.

[Rigadon]

To be fair to Manchester it's got some fucking great record shops.

Yep. I can only think of Swordfish that is decent now, in Brum, and that's hidden down a city centre cul-de-sac.

There were loads more only 15 years ago. I wonder where the business went that meant they had to close.

Indeed. Wonder Where Went.

[Pat McMahon]

I like both places and the people from both cities immensely, and I don't subscribe to the stereotypes associated with them. They have more in common  than they realise.

Me too. But I generally have preferred Scousers to Mancs- much to the dismay of my Manc friends (and ex)