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Offline big rons jeweller

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Re: RDM Poll time at 10 played!
« Reply #60 on: September 28, 2016, 10:23:17 AM »
I was not behind RDM's appointment - but the combo with Steve Clarke makes the pairing good enough.

Instability has wrecked our club's fortunes over the past few years. RDM should be given the season, short of a relegation battle, to show what he can do.
Spot on all this tinkering especially the full backs has unsettled us.

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Re: RDM Poll time at 10 played!
« Reply #61 on: September 28, 2016, 10:24:42 AM »
Decent managers have't been joining us for the past 7 seasons.

Edit: I see we're now referencing one of greatest managers and his epic achievements as the straw to clutch at, seeing as we cannot mention Taylor any longer.

Look at the facts; the same problem every other game. Why is the manager suddenly going to develop tactical know how in the next few weeks?

I want him to succeed, but experience tells me that if will not.
I wasn't clutching at straws Ads..I was merely making a observation.

Its only relevant though if RDM is as good as Saunders and he plainly is nowhere near that level.

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Re: RDM Poll time at 10 played!
« Reply #62 on: September 28, 2016, 10:24:53 AM »
I really don't know what to think.

On the one hand I really do not want to see another Manager go and September seems ridiculously early to be rocking the boat again. On the other, the same thing happening repeatedly is clearly down to us doing something wrong rather than simply rotten luck and we are already getting worryingly adrift of where we want and need to be.

I just want it all to go away. Somebody make it stop, please. 
 

Offline mr underhill

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Re: RDM Poll time at 10 played!
« Reply #63 on: September 28, 2016, 10:43:51 AM »
does anyone have any kind of rational explanation as to why, under so many different managers, coaches, specialist coaches, fitness staff, players, tactics and formations, not to mention tens of millions of pounds spent, we have been shit for six years?

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Re: RDM Poll time at 10 played!
« Reply #64 on: September 28, 2016, 10:44:21 AM »
Not sure. We were in the same position this time last season and we were slow to respond  ending disastrously. On the other hand if we sack the manager, his staff will probably go too and we are back to the same position we seem to have been in for the past few years. Then there is his replacement, who? I think we need stability on the coaching side and playing staff. I have seen some improvement this season and expect it will grow as manager and team settle. So I am in favour of a review at the end of season, unless relegation is a possibility (which I doubt). This may mean that we stay in this division for another year, but continually swapping and changing in my opinion doesn't work.

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Re: RDM Poll time at 10 played!
« Reply #65 on: September 28, 2016, 10:57:20 AM »
How the hell did he win the champions league.

Baffling tactics.

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Re: RDM Poll time at 10 played!
« Reply #66 on: September 28, 2016, 11:34:49 AM »
The most critical thing for success imo is a settled side and the  main reason he has failed. Maybe its all too much too soon and he has too many options but pick a bloody formation and style of play you want and damn well stick to it. Pick your best 11 players in their best positions and back them, even after a bad game. If someone comes on as a sub and does really well or does great in training, they come into your thinking but dont shoe horn them in because someone else had a bad game. 3 or 4 games playing badly and then maybe a spell on the sidelines but how can any of them get momentum built up they way things are?

Jack has played number 10, wing and wide forward. Kodjia has played central striker on his own, part of a two, wide forward and winger. Adomah has only played twice and has played winger and bloody wing back. Dont even get me started on Bacuna who everytime he shows some promise he starts next week on a different corner of the pitch. The defence are going from a back 3 to 4 to 5 week in week out - its ludicrous and will cost him his job if he doesnt stop playing championship manager every week
This.
It's all a bit Sherwood.


I don't agree with this to be honest. He hasn't changed it from 5 to 4 at the back week in week out at all, he's played 5 at the back twice in ten games, it's hardly every week, although at home it wasn't necessary. As for the formations, he's tried different things like most managers would. As for Bacuna comment, he's mainly played either right back or right midfield this season, So I don't get that either.

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Re: RDM Poll time at 10 played!
« Reply #67 on: September 28, 2016, 11:47:44 AM »
How the hell did he win the champions league.

Baffling tactics.

By letting a settled team that knew what it was doing do its thing? I don't know, but I haven't the confidence that he can build a team from scratch, certainly not in a few months. We're all over the place.

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Re: RDM Poll time at 10 played!
« Reply #68 on: September 28, 2016, 11:52:03 AM »
Yep. He is starting from scratch here but Chelsea was just to keep things going.

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Re: RDM Poll time at 10 played!
« Reply #69 on: September 28, 2016, 12:01:36 PM »
It is pretty much a completely new team which by and large are an improvement on last season but who still need time to gel to get the best out of them.  That said, we should be doing much better than we are which is down to a number of factors, the main one could just be bad luck.  However, we do have a richness of attacking talent for this league which we fail to exploit for long periods in quite a few games now and that has to be tactics or formation.  So, RDM and his team are culpable in that department as we should have at least double the amount of goals as we have now. 

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Re: RDM Poll time at 10 played!
« Reply #70 on: September 28, 2016, 12:02:30 PM »
He's shaping up to be a disaster. A really scattergun approach to transfers, where we've spent lots on attacking players, but have gambled on young, unproven players in Gollini and Tshibola to fill key weak areas. Elphick is as bad a defensive signing as we've made in years.

Then he seemingly has no idea of his preferred system, either when starting matches or reacting to in-game events. Players have been played all over the shop, and look as confused as the fans.  It really isn't good enough, and it's the old, boring story of hoping that Villa take 30 minutes of good play into other games, but never do.

Very, very poor indeed. He needs the chop.

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Re: RDM Poll time at 10 played!
« Reply #71 on: September 28, 2016, 12:05:59 PM »
Morning Nik. I called out   Elphick for what he is, shit, during the Brentford game  and some people around me didn't like it. But he is however both him and Jedinak were signed by RDM.

Evening mate, yes, I agree on Elphick. A bit of a disappointment. I thought he'd be better. Needs to step up. I do like most of the signings, though. Kodjia in particular.
« Last Edit: September 29, 2016, 05:24:05 AM by Axl Rose »

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Re: RDM Poll time at 10 played!
« Reply #72 on: September 28, 2016, 12:09:35 PM »
How the hell did he win the champions league.

Baffling tactics.

By letting a settled team that knew what it was doing do its thing? I don't know, but I haven't the confidence that he can build a team from scratch, certainly not in a few months. We're all over the place.

There was much talk at the time that John Terry was calling the shots and giving the team talks.

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Re: RDM Poll time at 10 played!
« Reply #73 on: September 28, 2016, 12:14:53 PM »
The most critical thing for success imo is a settled side and the  main reason he has failed. Maybe its all too much too soon and he has too many options but pick a bloody formation and style of play you want and damn well stick to it. Pick your best 11 players in their best positions and back them, even after a bad game. If someone comes on as a sub and does really well or does great in training, they come into your thinking but dont shoe horn them in because someone else had a bad game. 3 or 4 games playing badly and then maybe a spell on the sidelines but how can any of them get momentum built up they way things are?

Jack has played number 10, wing and wide forward. Kodjia has played central striker on his own, part of a two, wide forward and winger. Adomah has only played twice and has played winger and bloody wing back. Dont even get me started on Bacuna who everytime he shows some promise he starts next week on a different corner of the pitch. The defence are going from a back 3 to 4 to 5 week in week out - its ludicrous and will cost him his job if he doesnt stop playing championship manager every week
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It's all a bit Sherwood.


I don't agree with this to be honest. He hasn't changed it from 5 to 4 at the back week in week out at all, he's played 5 at the back twice in ten games, it's hardly every week, although at home it wasn't necessary. As for the formations, he's tried different things like most managers would. As for Bacuna comment, he's mainly played either right back or right midfield this season, So I don't get that either.

So you dont agree by agreeing with me? He has had a long preseason and supposedly bought players in to suit a formation/style of play and yet 10 games in has already played 442, 352, 343 and 351. You dont think that is ridiculous? how can we possibly get any cohesion?

As well as RM and FB, Bacuna has also played RWB and and Right sided wide attacker, so in 8 games he has had 4 different roles covering defence, midfield, attack and attacking defender. We will not progress whilst he keeps trying to stumble upon a magic formula - like cd said, it reminds me of sherwood and his formation dartboard again. I watched Jurgen Klopp on MNF saying how he wouldnt experiment with something like that (3/4/5 at the back) as it is too fundamental a change to try and implement during a season.

Not saying that injuries and opposition shouldnt dictate minor tweaking (Cissokho and Amavi with defensive and offensive traits is a great example) but like i said, imo this is why he is failing

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Re: RDM Poll time at 10 played!
« Reply #74 on: September 28, 2016, 12:18:56 PM »
He's shaping up to be a disaster. A really scattergun approach to transfers, where we've spent lots on attacking players, but have gambled on young, unproven players in Gollini and Tshibola to fill key weak areas. Elphick is as bad a defensive signing as we've made in years.

Then he seemingly has no idea of his preferred system, either when starting matches or reacting to in-game events. Players have been played all over the shop, and look as confused as the fans.  It really isn't good enough, and it's the old, boring story of hoping that Villa take 30 minutes of good play into other games, but never do.

Very, very poor indeed. He needs the chop.
What I have seen in Tshibola so far, I think he is an excellent signing as long as he stays fit. I agree with you on Gollini though.

 


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