Squad reshaping

[andyh]

So, a new broom will soon start to sweep away at the club.
What will the new manager do about the players he is going to inherit?
In my opinion, they fall into 4 categories (not including the breakthrough kids or loanees).

1. Toxic - get rid at all costs.
Agbonlahor, Guzan, Richards, N'zogbia

2. Not good enough - get rid.
Cissokho, Richardson, Bacuna, Sinclair, Kozak (reluctantly)

3. Not bothered either way - a new manager may get the best out if them, he may get rid, but I really don't care.
Bunn, Lescott, Westwood, Gana, Vertoute, Hutton, okore, Sanchez

4. Definately keep, I'd be disappointed to lose any of these.
Amavi, Grealish, Ayew, Gestede,Clark, traore

Anyone agree?

Edited to add okore and Kozak - how could I possibly have forgotten them?

[VillaAlways]

I'd put Lescott in the toxic camp  and Gana in the definitely keep.Okore seems to want out so not bothered either way Other than that, about right.

[SheffieldVillain]

So, a new broom will soon start to sweep away at the club.
What will the new manager do about the players he is going to inherit?
In my opinion, they fall into 4 categories (not including the breakthrough kids or loanees).

1. Toxic - get rid at all costs.
Agbonlahor, Guzan, Richards, N'zogbia

2. Not good enough - get rid.
Cissokho, Richardson, Bacuna, Sinclair

3. Not bothered either way - a new manager may get the best out if them, he may get rid, but I really don't care.
Bunn, Lescott, Westwood, Gana, Vertoute, Hutton

4. Definately keep, I'd be disappointed to lose any of these.
Amavi, Grealish, Ayew, Gestede,Clark

Anyone agree?

More or less.

For me:

Have to go: Gabby, Richards, Lescott, N'Zogbia

Should go: Guzan, Bacuna, Sinclair, Richardson, Hutton, Sanchez, Bunn, Cissokho, Crespo

Not bothered - Okore, Clark, Westwood, Kozak, Gil, Baker, Bennett. Gestede

Should keep if possible: Gana, Veretout, Ayew, Traore, Amavi, Gardner, Lyden, Toner, Grealish, Steer, Robinson, Hepburn-Murphy

[brian green]

Agree, Lescott in the toxic camp, Okore in the maybe keep and Traore a keep at all costs for me.

[brian green]

All the forgoing is logical but I fear the reality may be very different.

The wasters and malingerers will turn up to meet the new manager, booted and suited, looking as though butter would not melt in their mouths and the new, easy going manager will lean towards forgiveness based on not having seen close up and first hand the dressing room horror show that was last season.  The lower demands of the Championship would probably make players like Lescott look adequate and early wins could make the new manager's softly softly approach seem to be working.  Only when player power flares up again as it inevitably will would the price have to be paid for not being ruthless when we should have been, this summer.

In short RDM looks like he does not do broom work.

[andrew08]

Doesn't N'Zogbia go in one month, 4 days, 14 hours and 44 minutes anyway?

[brian green]

Yes, and I have this recurring dream that Mr N'Zogbia on his way to his new club gets kidnapped by Somali pirates and forced to pay a £25 million ransom.

[sickbeggar]

It's a hard one really because with the exception of a few they could all probably cope with the Championship.

Sell because they probably can't: Vertout, Gil, Traore, bacuna

Keepers

1 new keeper
One of Bunn/Guzan as back-up

Defenders
2 new defenders
clark, Baker, Hutton cissoko. amavi . Keep 1 off Okare/Richards/Lescott. as back-up


2 new midfielders

grealish/sinclair/westwood/sanchez/gardner/gana to fight it out with kids for the remainling places with 3 off them sold


2 new strikers

back-up /ayew/gestade/gabby to battle it out. 2 off them sold



I make that 7 new players and 11 out

[TheMalandro]

In: a few hard players, couple of bubbly characters, two tall players and some fast ones.

Out: troublemakers

[johnny from donny]

I think it's important that everyone knows exactly where they stand. The new manager should sit down with the players individually and tell them either:

1. We are prepared to let you go for £xxx, your agent can seek a new club for you.

Or

2. We want to keep you but if you want to leave, put in a written transfer request by 20 June so we can move you on and seek a replacement before pre season training starts.

Ok, I'm over simplifying the situation a tad but if they want to go, let it happen sooner rather than later. I don't want to lose a player on the eve of the season that we've been planning to keep. Those who wish to leave can train separately as they don't need to be part of any tactical sessions, set play routines etc. Plus they would be a negative influence on the group in my opinion.

That said, Guzan, Richards, Lescott and Agbonlahor have to go by any means necessary. Richardson and N'Zogbia are out of contract anyway so the above really applies to the rest of the squad.

[DeKuip]

In: a few hard players, couple of bubbly characters, two tall players and some fast ones.

Out: troublemakers

Ron 'Chopper' Seal
Ron 'Aero' Seal
Ron 'Flagpole' Seal
& Ron 'Usain' Seal

[CJ]

Need someone steady and predictable as well - Ron 'Does what it says on the tin' Seal

[Virgil Caine]

As long as we don't end up with Ron 'I'm not playing in the rain, it will ruin my hair' Seal

[old man villa fan]

So, a new broom will soon start to sweep away at the club.
What will the new manager do about the players he is going to inherit?
In my opinion, they fall into 4 categories (not including the breakthrough kids or loanees).

1. Toxic - get rid at all costs.
Agbonlahor, Guzan, Richards, N'zogbia

2. Not good enough - get rid.
Cissokho, Richardson, Bacuna, Sinclair

3. Not bothered either way - a new manager may get the best out if them, he may get rid, but I really don't care.
Bunn, Lescott, Westwood, Gana, Vertoute, Hutton

4. Definately keep, I'd be disappointed to lose any of these.
Amavi, Grealish, Ayew, Gestede,Clark

Anyone agree?

More or less.

For me:

Have to go: Gabby, Richards, Lescott, N'Zogbia

Should go: Guzan, Bacuna, Sinclair, Richardson, Hutton, Sanchez, Bunn, Cissokho, Crespo

Not bothered - Okore, Clark, Westwood, Kozak, Gil, Baker, Bennett. Gestede

Should keep if possible: Gana, Veretout, Ayew, Traore, Amavi, Gardner, Lyden, Toner, Grealish, Steer, Robinson, Hepburn-Murphy

Would generally go with that except Sanchez to 'not bothered' and Okore/Clark to 'kepp if possible'.

However, a lot will depend on our ambitions in the transfer market.

[Gregorys Boy]

I'd keep the keepers, one bad season does not make Guzan a bad player, and I think Bunn has a decent future, and at Championship level at least should be fairly consistent. 

Trouble is the few class attacking players we have are likely to get offers from elsewhere, and if the right one comes out won't want to stick around.  Not to mention that the club might want them off the wage bill.

I actually quite like Sinclair and think that he might fit the Championship quite well.