Turning Points

[London Villan]

If today isn't a day for navel gazing I don't know when is. So where we the key turning points in the last six or so years. I'll start with two...

Leicester v Villa, Sept 2015
If TacticsTim brings on a midfielder instead of Ayew we hold on and win. Ok we maybe don't do a Leicester and win the league (ahem), but it gives the new players an early confidence boost and the next three home games don't end up as three defeats...

League Cup Final, Feb 2010
Vidic is sent off, manu with 10 men, we realise we can win the cup. ONeil stays, we are in Europe, Aiden McGeady is signed and the next six years are just a horrible nightmare.

[Mortimer's Bear]

Pretty sure it wasn't 2013.

[London Villan]

It's early!

[OzVilla]

The TSM Mk 1 appointment. Our stocks were still high but that appointmentset a tone. Then not sacking Lambert sooner. They had numerous opportunities. That's when this squad came together and this attitude of accepting defeat and unwanted records was forged.

Then not taking a pragmatic approach and appointing Allardyce or someone similar instead of 'single list Tim'.

[aj2k77]

Yep, we'd just finished 6th, 6th, 6th, 10th and we employed a manager who had been relegated 2 of the last 3 seasons. Utter shit from the ''board''.

[preston28]

Only one turning point for me - DD selling up to Lerner.

[Dave]

Yep, we'd just finished 6th, 6th, 6th, 10th and we employed a manager who had been relegated 2 of the last 3 seasons. Utter shit from the ''board''.

9th under Houllier wasn't it?

[ciggiesnbeer]

Good shout. Looking back The McLeish appointment was a statement of intent.

[Phil from the upper holte]

Was a statement alright. The yank didn't have a Fucking clue what he was doing. If the current setup now had been put in place earlier we wouldn't be in this mess. This utter disaster

[Phil from the upper holte]

I do think Leicester was a big turning point though

[aj2k77]

Yep, we'd just finished 6th, 6th, 6th, 10th and we employed a manager who had been relegated 2 of the last 3 seasons. Utter shit from the ''board''.

9th under Houllier wasn't it?

You're right it sure was.

[clash city rocker]

The biggest turning point is yet to come. Next season will be the real turning point. Whether for the good or not it will define us as a club for years to come because unfortunately that is what TV money has now done for teams who are relegated. The appointment of our new manager could well turn out to be the biggest turning point. Things can get better but there is also a chance that things could get worse.

[sickbeggar]

To me it was the point where the club policy changed from buying established premiership players for the 1st team to looking for promising players for the 1st team. We had a situation left over from MON where we were chock full of his journeymen reserves on big wages. Instead of getting rid of them and replacing them with the youth or promising players, we sold our best players and replaced them with the youth and promising players. I think most people wanted a smaller squad but they went about it totally the wrong way

[aj2k77]

I do think Leicester was a big turning point though

I personally don't think so. Simply because tactics was and always will be a chancer, the Leicester game would of happened plenty of other times against other teams had he stayed, we would never have got anywhere with him. It wouldn't have heralded a great run from him, he would have fucked it up somewhere else along the lines because he's crap and another rookie, nothing, gobshit manager employed by us on the easy.

[pooligan]

Having given it some thought,i would go for O'Neil walking out on the club just five days before the new season kicked off as the biggest single turning point