Remi- It has happened.

[Ad@m]

Fergie also finished second in the league very early on, proving that he was worth the time.

After nearly 2 years in the job actually

Considering he was there 25 years, that's still early on, surely?

But in the context of talking about Remi Garde getting 4 months probably not?

The reality is, Garde's been dealt the shittiest of hands you possibly could be but unless anyone wants to argue that getting the best out of the players at your disposal isn't part of the remit of a manager then you've got to admit he's failed to a certain extent.

We'll never know if a January transfer window where he got to bring in his own players may have changed things but you could argue that if he'd got the new manager bounce many managers get when they first join a club we may have had sufficient points that the board were confident enough to give him the money and potential recruits were confident enough to join us.

In the end, not winning a single match until half way through the transfer window was a pretty significant failure in itself which probably contributed to the rest of the rug being pulled from underneath him and making his sacking/resignation inevitable.

[SamTheMouse]

Garde started OK, but clearly got his arse in his hand when the board decided not to give him any better players to work with.

You could argue he should have got on with it rather than sulking, but if he had decided that new signings were a firm prerequisite for staying up, you can see why he would have been so angry.

He should probably have resigned at that point.

[ozzjim]

Have Ray and Duverne gone too?

[AVH87]

Garde started OK, but clearly got his arse in his hand when the board decided not to give him any better players to work with.

You could argue he should have got on with it rather than sulking, but if he had decided that new signings were a firm prerequisite for staying up, you can see why he would have been so angry.

He should probably have resigned at that point.

He started badly, we got hammered 4-0 at mid-table Everton in his second game, then followed it up with a 2-3 home defeat to newly-promoted Watford. There was an improvement in January, where we were harder to beat, but this only involved actually winning one league game, so we were still miles from safety, hence no money being made available during the month.

[gpbarr]

Fergie also finished second in the league very early on, proving that he was worth the time.

After nearly 2 years in the job actually

So his first full season, which is early on.

Right but positively 12 months and one full season more than RG - which was the thread topic.

[villasjf]

Have Ray and Duverne gone too?

On the OS they are still here.

[PeterWithesShin]

Fergie also finished second in the league very early on, proving that he was worth the time.

After nearly 2 years in the job actually

So his first full season, which is early on.

Right but positively 12 months and one full season more than RG - which was the thread topic.

But he got that second season because he took a side with a suspect culture etc from 21st to 11th. I could be wrong but I don't think he signed anyone of note until the summer. Obviously we'll never know what would have happened if he'd done the same as Remi and gotten them relegated as to whether they'd have stuck by him or not.

[gpbarr]

A suspect culture but also one with genuine ability throughout the side.

Anyway we could go back and forth all day - old news because Remi is gone now. It is what it is.

[dave.woodhall]

Pre-European ban Ferguson would have got them into Europe four seasons out of his first five. Before they won the league he was already their most successful manager since Busby.

[Brian Taylor]

Effing disgusting..stitched from the start. What does the next night watchman put in the contract. Big payoff if get into div two.  I think the new bod are some sort of coak and dagger masonic clique now. Upper class and nothing more. Pocket-liners at fans expense.

[gpbarr]

And Fergie spoke this AM with perfect timing about the need for patience with LVG, as he himself was given it.

Whomever we appoint next, they need to be given time and we need to be patient. Remi wasn't given any such patience - it was win now or bust.

I really do hope that if we don't suddenly set the Championship alight and are not top by Xmas, the fans will finally understand it takes time to turn the Titanic.

[ez]

Something i don't get is comparing our managers to Alex Ferguson.