Did the club not own land further up Trinity Road - probably where the cricket pitch now is?I think this was the land used as a training ground until the mid sixties when it was sold by the then board in order to help make ends meet.
I've tried getting an answer from the club, via emailing the club but the emails keep being sent back via the "postmaster".
A bit more digging (another exciting Friday night). There is a record of the land attached to the Hall originally being about 1600 acres (that's about 3/4 the size of Sutton Park). It stretched to Lozells to the west, and Nechells to the south. At one time there was a 934 acre deer park. The walled gardens in the 1750s were 327 acres (about 200 football pitches) compared to the current 50 odd acres of the park.The lower grounds were 31 acres. This included a cricket ground (where Nelson/Jardine/Endicott Roads are now) and a bowling green. The green survived until the mid sixties, located near where the McGregor statue is. I'm sure our older posters remember it, I just remember my Dad pointing out it's location to me, outside the 1970s club shop. Some of the aquarium buildings remained as the club offices into the 1970s, I remember them being demolished.
Quote from: Pete on February 19, 2016, 10:42:32 PMA bit more digging (another exciting Friday night). There is a record of the land attached to the Hall originally being about 1600 acres (that's about 3/4 the size of Sutton Park). It stretched to Lozells to the west, and Nechells to the south. At one time there was a 934 acre deer park. The walled gardens in the 1750s were 327 acres (about 200 football pitches) compared to the current 50 odd acres of the park.The lower grounds were 31 acres. This included a cricket ground (where Nelson/Jardine/Endicott Roads are now) and a bowling green. The green survived until the mid sixties, located near where the McGregor statue is. I'm sure our older posters remember it, I just remember my Dad pointing out it's location to me, outside the 1970s club shop. Some of the aquarium buildings remained as the club offices into the 1970s, I remember them being demolished.There was talk of them being modernised, which would have been a fine thing, but unfortunately they were in such a state that they were condemned and demolished in 1980.
Quote from: Steve R on February 19, 2016, 06:06:27 PMDid the club not own land further up Trinity Road - probably where the cricket pitch now is?I think this was the land used as a training ground until the mid sixties when it was sold by the then board in order to help make ends meet. Bear with me on this, I'll get to the point. It all comes from the Aston Unity link.Unity played on the actual Lower Grounds pitch from 1880 to 1881. They then played on the existing Cricket pitch from 1881 to 1908. They then moved to adjacent land, the Hercules factory sports club, until 1954. Villa shared this with them, using it as our training ground. (all three cricket sites are referred to as Aston Lower Grounds in Wisden). Villa might have bought it at some point, but at least to start with it belonged to Hercules. If you look on a map, Townley Gardens was built on the site.Most of this comes from a book called aLost Teams of the Midlands by Mike Bradbury. I'm not sure how reliable it is. I'm trying to do a bit of fact checking, I'll post some other early Villa related stuff later.
just going back to the team that lost 2-4 to Stourbridge in April 1959 is that Big Ron named as the Atkinson in the team?