Quote from: dave.woodhall on January 01, 2016, 09:28:38 PMQuote from: Ron Manager on January 01, 2016, 09:26:31 PMFor those of you interested in our history. When we first moved into our present ground in March !897 it was known as Aston Lower Grounds. Today I have found an article in the Lancashire Evening Post dated 18th Sept 1897 which states "Aston Lower Grounds the Villa's new home,has been rechristened and will be known in future as Villa Park- a very appropriate name". That didn't take long then! I bet Joe Dunkley wanted it called Wellington Rd Perry Barr!That's interesting. Even Simon Inglis in the Villa Park centenary says there was no offical re-naming date so that's a big find.Their hack must have got this information direct from the club Dave.
Quote from: Ron Manager on January 01, 2016, 09:26:31 PMFor those of you interested in our history. When we first moved into our present ground in March !897 it was known as Aston Lower Grounds. Today I have found an article in the Lancashire Evening Post dated 18th Sept 1897 which states "Aston Lower Grounds the Villa's new home,has been rechristened and will be known in future as Villa Park- a very appropriate name". That didn't take long then! I bet Joe Dunkley wanted it called Wellington Rd Perry Barr!That's interesting. Even Simon Inglis in the Villa Park centenary says there was no offical re-naming date so that's a big find.
For those of you interested in our history. When we first moved into our present ground in March !897 it was known as Aston Lower Grounds. Today I have found an article in the Lancashire Evening Post dated 18th Sept 1897 which states "Aston Lower Grounds the Villa's new home,has been rechristened and will be known in future as Villa Park- a very appropriate name". That didn't take long then! I bet Joe Dunkley wanted it called Wellington Rd Perry Barr!
great to see that in 1875 that we were known as "the Villa"thanks for posting UTVThe Doc
Quote from: Ron Manager on January 01, 2016, 09:31:44 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on January 01, 2016, 09:28:38 PMQuote from: Ron Manager on January 01, 2016, 09:26:31 PMFor those of you interested in our history. When we first moved into our present ground in March !897 it was known as Aston Lower Grounds. Today I have found an article in the Lancashire Evening Post dated 18th Sept 1897 which states "Aston Lower Grounds the Villa's new home,has been rechristened and will be known in future as Villa Park- a very appropriate name". That didn't take long then! I bet Joe Dunkley wanted it called Wellington Rd Perry Barr!That's interesting. Even Simon Inglis in the Villa Park centenary says there was no offical re-naming date so that's a big find.Their hack must have got this information direct from the club Dave.Looking at the book, Simon says that the Birmingham Daily Mail referred to "Villa Park" in August 1897 but it doesn't seem to have caught on and the News & Record still used Lower Grounds until 1907.
Now thereby hangs a tale. The Birmingham Morning News of 16th November 1875 reported on a match that had taken place two days earlier between Aston Villa and Aston Brook St Mary's at Heathfield Rd - mention of this was in issue 10 of Soccer History magazine, winter 2004. Villa won 1-0, the goal being scored by Jack Hughes with a ball that had been hired for the occasion, and it stretches credulity to think that the same teams could play each other twice, particuarly at twelve months interval, with exactly the same outcome so the Aston Brook game can safely be said to have taken place then. The library archives don't have a copy of the BMN for that day so one may no longer exist. The Aston Unity club (an offshoot of the cricket club of the same name, which still exists) regarded the games in January 1875 as full fixtures, while the Villa were said to be a scratch side drawn from members of the cricket club. The club's early history was, I believe, almost exclusively catalogued by Hughes so if they/he says the Aston Brook game was the first, who are mere mortals to argue?
Quote from: dave.woodhall on December 11, 2015, 09:08:12 PMNow thereby hangs a tale. The Birmingham Morning News of 16th November 1875 reported on a match that had taken place two days earlier between Aston Villa and Aston Brook St Mary's at Heathfield Rd - mention of this was in issue 10 of Soccer History magazine, winter 2004. Villa won 1-0, the goal being scored by Jack Hughes with a ball that had been hired for the occasion, and it stretches credulity to think that the same teams could play each other twice, particuarly at twelve months interval, with exactly the same outcome so the Aston Brook game can safely be said to have taken place then. The library archives don't have a copy of the BMN for that day so one may no longer exist. The Aston Unity club (an offshoot of the cricket club of the same name, which still exists) regarded the games in January 1875 as full fixtures, while the Villa were said to be a scratch side drawn from members of the cricket club. The club's early history was, I believe, almost exclusively catalogued by Hughes so if they/he says the Aston Brook game was the first, who are mere mortals to argue? Just thought I’d bump this thread.I took the liberty in looking up the Birmingham Morning News on the said date and I couldn’t find any reference to that or any other Villa game.The only football report in the Oct-Dec 1875 period of the BMN was Calthorpe vs Birmingham (no, not that Birmingham).However, there were a few references to St Mary’s rugby matches.This doesn’t necessarily mean that the match report doesn’t exist, just not at that particular date in that particular paper.
DaveYou can view it at The British Newspaper Library, St Pancras, Euston Road, London. It’s close to Euston Station.It’s in their catalogue here (apologies for the long link):http://explore.bl.uk/primo_library/libweb/action/display.do?tabs=moreTab&ct=display&fn=search&doc=BLL01013896659&indx=1&recIds=BLL01013896659&recIdxs=0&elementId=0&renderMode=poppedOut&displayMode=full&frbrVersion=&dscnt=2&fromLogin=true&tab=local_tab&dstmp=1465073981276&vl%28freeText0%29=birmingham%20morning%20news&vid=BLVU1&mode=Basic