Quote from: themossman on August 04, 2015, 07:42:05 PMThe loss of 4 key players line is laughable though. Vlaar and cleverley key players? You what son?I think they mean "key" in the sense that they played a lot of games for us (when available), which they did. Whether they'd be key players in better teams, or whether they're replaceable is (very) debatable.
The loss of 4 key players line is laughable though. Vlaar and cleverley key players? You what son?
Quote from: themossman on August 04, 2015, 07:50:54 PMAlso, to talk about young players stepping up and ignore Clark is equally criminal.Towards the end of the season people wouldve been happy for Cleverley to stay and how much longer is Clark going to be regrded as a young player. He's 26 next month......
Also, to talk about young players stepping up and ignore Clark is equally criminal.
But we also lost a lot of games they all played in. My point is that if those 4 players (the spine of the team) were good/key to extent that losing them would put us in jeopardy next season then we wouldn't have been so shit for most of last season. And therefore replacing them with well regarded French players isn't the wild punt that is implied.
5 of our best players have gone (started cup final ) , that's what the media will look at and comment on mostly.
Quote from: silhillvilla on August 04, 2015, 09:46:48 PM5 of our best players have gone (started cup final ) , that's what the media will look at and comment on mostly. Which 5 best players are these?
Quote from: Clampy on August 05, 2015, 08:56:41 AMQuote from: silhillvilla on August 04, 2015, 09:46:48 PM5 of our best players have gone (started cup final ) , that's what the media will look at and comment on mostly. Which 5 best players are these?Doesn't take a genius to work out 4 of them. Benteke, Vlaar, Delph, Cleverley. The 5th is probably Given, but he's not too much of a miss in reality.
Quote from: silhillvilla on August 04, 2015, 09:46:48 PM5 of our best players have gone (started cup final ) , that's what the media will look at and comment on mostly. We finished 17th and got blootered 4-0 in the Final, so just how good were those five players? I'll say, Benteke aside, the answer is "not very".So considering Delph and Benteke were off anyway, what have we lost by replacing just about the entire team with what, in general, looks like quite an exciting bunch of new players? We may well go down if they don't gel or Sherwood is found out, but many pundits have been predicting that for the past three seasons anyway. Same as I said in another thread, we had nothing to lose, may as well enjoy the ride!
Quote from: saunders_heroes on August 05, 2015, 09:01:00 AMQuote from: Clampy on August 05, 2015, 08:56:41 AMQuote from: silhillvilla on August 04, 2015, 09:46:48 PM5 of our best players have gone (started cup final ) , that's what the media will look at and comment on mostly. Which 5 best players are these?Doesn't take a genius to work out 4 of them. Benteke, Vlaar, Delph, Cleverley. The 5th is probably Given, but he's not too much of a miss in reality. You're probably right, but if so then it's difficult to take seriously a post suggesting that Given was amongst our "best players".If he were and we thought he were going to be missed, he wouldn't have been pushed towards the door marked "do one" at the first available opportunity.