Quote from: Dave on May 28, 2016, 09:27:17 AMI'll let PWS take this one:Quote from: PeterWithesShin on October 20, 2015, 09:01:51 PMQuote from: Jimbo on October 20, 2015, 08:48:37 PMWhat's moneyball?To simplify it as much as possible, signing players that are massively undervalued by other clubs that can do what you highly value. In Billy Beane's case, this was mainly the ability to get on base. It had little to nothing to do with signing a 21 year old full of promise to sell for more later, as highly promising players they weren't undervalued in the first place. He'd sign a 35 year old for a year if he could afford him and he got on base. He used sabermetrics to find these players. It's called moneyball as the Oakland annual budget was say $40m and he was trying to find a way to compete with teams like the Yankees spending $130m a year. Paul McGrath was a "Moneyball" signing. Jordan Veretout and Adama Traore weren't. Edit: if you want an example of a recent "Moneyball" signing - Robert Huth to Leicester would tick pretty much all the boxes.Solano would be my tip for our best moneyball signing of recent(ish) years.
I'll let PWS take this one:Quote from: PeterWithesShin on October 20, 2015, 09:01:51 PMQuote from: Jimbo on October 20, 2015, 08:48:37 PMWhat's moneyball?To simplify it as much as possible, signing players that are massively undervalued by other clubs that can do what you highly value. In Billy Beane's case, this was mainly the ability to get on base. It had little to nothing to do with signing a 21 year old full of promise to sell for more later, as highly promising players they weren't undervalued in the first place. He'd sign a 35 year old for a year if he could afford him and he got on base. He used sabermetrics to find these players. It's called moneyball as the Oakland annual budget was say $40m and he was trying to find a way to compete with teams like the Yankees spending $130m a year. Paul McGrath was a "Moneyball" signing. Jordan Veretout and Adama Traore weren't. Edit: if you want an example of a recent "Moneyball" signing - Robert Huth to Leicester would tick pretty much all the boxes.
Quote from: Jimbo on October 20, 2015, 08:48:37 PMWhat's moneyball?To simplify it as much as possible, signing players that are massively undervalued by other clubs that can do what you highly value. In Billy Beane's case, this was mainly the ability to get on base. It had little to nothing to do with signing a 21 year old full of promise to sell for more later, as highly promising players they weren't undervalued in the first place. He'd sign a 35 year old for a year if he could afford him and he got on base. He used sabermetrics to find these players. It's called moneyball as the Oakland annual budget was say $40m and he was trying to find a way to compete with teams like the Yankees spending $130m a year.
What's moneyball?
Yes you are right about Merson PWS and I was wrong. In haste I forgot what a big lump of money he cost us.
Quote from: brian green on May 28, 2016, 05:09:44 PMYes you are right about Merson PWS and I was wrong. In haste I forgot what a big lump of money he cost us.He was the dog's bollox though. I miss the 90's, for both Villa and non Villa-related reasons.
Quote from: brian green on May 28, 2016, 05:09:44 PMYes you are right about Merson PWS and I was wrong. In haste I forgot what a big lump of money he cost us.Colin Calderwood and Ronny Johnsen are better examples Brian.
