Quote from: Dave P on January 25, 2015, 10:03:07 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on January 25, 2015, 09:58:23 PMQuote from: Dave P on January 25, 2015, 09:56:09 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on January 25, 2015, 09:53:11 PMQuote from: Dave P on January 25, 2015, 09:51:59 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on January 25, 2015, 09:46:51 PMWhy is it always the same options? They're not mutually inclusive. Of course not. Everybody wants to win the cup and stop up. Nobody wants to get relegated with no cup. The dilemma put forward is yielding a near 50/50 result so far. This could become more real as we progress further in the cup and potentially take our eye of the ball in the league as Wigan and Hull did in the last two years. Hull survived luckily for them. And how many more clubs have seen their league form improve as they went on a cup run - Manchester United in 1990 being the most obvious. example. Man U were not fighting relegation in 1990. A cup run gave them freedom. A freedom that is not afforded to us as we speak. Oh yes they were. They were no higher in the league than us. Just checked and maybe that is correct. Recent form has flew in the face of this however. It made no difference to Portsmouth in 2010 or Stoke in 2011. This time last season Hull were 13th and finished 16th - hardly a massive slump. At the same time in 2013 Wigan were 19th and finished 18th.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on January 25, 2015, 09:58:23 PMQuote from: Dave P on January 25, 2015, 09:56:09 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on January 25, 2015, 09:53:11 PMQuote from: Dave P on January 25, 2015, 09:51:59 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on January 25, 2015, 09:46:51 PMWhy is it always the same options? They're not mutually inclusive. Of course not. Everybody wants to win the cup and stop up. Nobody wants to get relegated with no cup. The dilemma put forward is yielding a near 50/50 result so far. This could become more real as we progress further in the cup and potentially take our eye of the ball in the league as Wigan and Hull did in the last two years. Hull survived luckily for them. And how many more clubs have seen their league form improve as they went on a cup run - Manchester United in 1990 being the most obvious. example. Man U were not fighting relegation in 1990. A cup run gave them freedom. A freedom that is not afforded to us as we speak. Oh yes they were. They were no higher in the league than us. Just checked and maybe that is correct. Recent form has flew in the face of this however.
Quote from: Dave P on January 25, 2015, 09:56:09 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on January 25, 2015, 09:53:11 PMQuote from: Dave P on January 25, 2015, 09:51:59 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on January 25, 2015, 09:46:51 PMWhy is it always the same options? They're not mutually inclusive. Of course not. Everybody wants to win the cup and stop up. Nobody wants to get relegated with no cup. The dilemma put forward is yielding a near 50/50 result so far. This could become more real as we progress further in the cup and potentially take our eye of the ball in the league as Wigan and Hull did in the last two years. Hull survived luckily for them. And how many more clubs have seen their league form improve as they went on a cup run - Manchester United in 1990 being the most obvious. example. Man U were not fighting relegation in 1990. A cup run gave them freedom. A freedom that is not afforded to us as we speak. Oh yes they were. They were no higher in the league than us.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on January 25, 2015, 09:53:11 PMQuote from: Dave P on January 25, 2015, 09:51:59 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on January 25, 2015, 09:46:51 PMWhy is it always the same options? They're not mutually inclusive. Of course not. Everybody wants to win the cup and stop up. Nobody wants to get relegated with no cup. The dilemma put forward is yielding a near 50/50 result so far. This could become more real as we progress further in the cup and potentially take our eye of the ball in the league as Wigan and Hull did in the last two years. Hull survived luckily for them. And how many more clubs have seen their league form improve as they went on a cup run - Manchester United in 1990 being the most obvious. example. Man U were not fighting relegation in 1990. A cup run gave them freedom. A freedom that is not afforded to us as we speak.
Quote from: Dave P on January 25, 2015, 09:51:59 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on January 25, 2015, 09:46:51 PMWhy is it always the same options? They're not mutually inclusive. Of course not. Everybody wants to win the cup and stop up. Nobody wants to get relegated with no cup. The dilemma put forward is yielding a near 50/50 result so far. This could become more real as we progress further in the cup and potentially take our eye of the ball in the league as Wigan and Hull did in the last two years. Hull survived luckily for them. And how many more clubs have seen their league form improve as they went on a cup run - Manchester United in 1990 being the most obvious. example.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on January 25, 2015, 09:46:51 PMWhy is it always the same options? They're not mutually inclusive. Of course not. Everybody wants to win the cup and stop up. Nobody wants to get relegated with no cup. The dilemma put forward is yielding a near 50/50 result so far. This could become more real as we progress further in the cup and potentially take our eye of the ball in the league as Wigan and Hull did in the last two years. Hull survived luckily for them.
Why is it always the same options? They're not mutually inclusive.
The other side of that is Palace went out in R4 last year whilst in 16th place and finished 11th. The cup exit probably had nothing to do with that or probably everything?
The FA cup is the holy grail for many of us, particularly those of a certain age.But, relegation can never be a good thing, and there are no guarantees that we would return quickly.Relegation? NO, NEVER.
None of those at VP would be favourites.
Quote from: PeterWithesShin on January 25, 2015, 10:47:52 PMNone of those at VP would be favourites. Why? Villa Park is hardly a fortress.Nearly every remaining team would fancy us in the draw.
How sad is this that the premier league money machne has such a hold over fans they would take 17th over actually winning the grandest cup competition of them all. FA Cup for me every time. We can come back from relegation in 58 years. We have not won the cup in that time. I would bloody love it if we won the cup.
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