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Offline hipkiss92

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Re: The Dilemma
« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2015, 09:45:40 PM »
No for me. We can win the FA cup if we just have some stability and a plan in terms of how to achieve success. It's not either/or for me.

Well we haven't managed it in the last 58 years

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Re: The Dilemma
« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2015, 09:46:51 PM »
Why is it always the same options? They're not mutually inclusive.

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Re: The Dilemma
« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2015, 09:51:53 PM »
Yes

were only ever gona be one of the also rans in this league

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Re: The Dilemma
« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2015, 09:51:59 PM »
Why is it always the same options? They're not mutually inclusive.

Of course their not. Everybody wants to win the cup and stop up. Nobody wants to get relegated with no cup. The dilemma put forward is yielding a near 50/50 result so far.

This could become more real as we progress further in the cup and potentially take our eye of the ball in the league as Wigan and Hull did in the last two years. Hull survived luckily for them.

Offline Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air

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Re: The Dilemma
« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2015, 09:52:24 PM »
Say we will take the FA Cup win and finish up being relegated until we have won the semi final, then tell everybody we lied.

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Re: The Dilemma
« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2015, 09:53:11 PM »
Why is it always the same options? They're not mutually inclusive.

Of course not. Everybody wants to win the cup and stop up. Nobody wants to get relegated with no cup. The dilemma put forward is yielding a near 50/50 result so far.

This could become more real as we progress further in the cup and potentially take our eye of the ball in the league as Wigan and Hull did in the last two years. Hull survived luckily for them.

And how many more clubs have seen their league form improve as they went on a cup run - Manchester United in 1990 being the most obvious. example.

Offline KevinGage

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Re: The Dilemma
« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2015, 09:54:05 PM »
I can't get over 4 people actually voted for the cup.

I haven't voted yet, but I would take the FA cup every day of the week,
you don't tell your grand kids about the day you won the fight against relegation

although the whole thing is irrelevant really because it's a surreal dilemma, one where there is no choice in reality

Remember that famous season when we reduced our losses? 

Doesn't quite have the same ring to it.

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Re: The Dilemma
« Reply #22 on: January 25, 2015, 09:56:06 PM »
Say we will take the FA Cup win and finish up being relegated until we have won the semi final, then tell everybody we lied.

I like your style, Andy.

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Re: The Dilemma
« Reply #23 on: January 25, 2015, 09:56:09 PM »
Why is it always the same options? They're not mutually inclusive.

Of course not. Everybody wants to win the cup and stop up. Nobody wants to get relegated with no cup. The dilemma put forward is yielding a near 50/50 result so far.

This could become more real as we progress further in the cup and potentially take our eye of the ball in the league as Wigan and Hull did in the last two years. Hull survived luckily for them.

And how many more clubs have seen their league form improve as they went on a cup run - Manchester United in 1990 being the most obvious. example.

Man U were not fighting relegation in 1990.  A cup run gave them freedom. A freedom that is not afforded to us as we speak.

Offline dave.woodhall

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Re: The Dilemma
« Reply #24 on: January 25, 2015, 09:58:23 PM »
Why is it always the same options? They're not mutually inclusive.

Of course not. Everybody wants to win the cup and stop up. Nobody wants to get relegated with no cup. The dilemma put forward is yielding a near 50/50 result so far.

This could become more real as we progress further in the cup and potentially take our eye of the ball in the league as Wigan and Hull did in the last two years. Hull survived luckily for them.

And how many more clubs have seen their league form improve as they went on a cup run - Manchester United in 1990 being the most obvious. example.

Man U were not fighting relegation in 1990.  A cup run gave them freedom. A freedom that is not afforded to us as we speak.

Oh yes they were. This time in 1990 they were seventeenth in the league, a point off the relegation places.
« Last Edit: January 25, 2015, 10:02:58 PM by dave.woodhall »

Offline silhillvilla

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Re: The Dilemma
« Reply #25 on: January 25, 2015, 10:02:53 PM »
No way. No.

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Re: The Dilemma
« Reply #26 on: January 25, 2015, 10:03:07 PM »
Why is it always the same options? They're not mutually inclusive.

Of course not. Everybody wants to win the cup and stop up. Nobody wants to get relegated with no cup. The dilemma put forward is yielding a near 50/50 result so far.

This could become more real as we progress further in the cup and potentially take our eye of the ball in the league as Wigan and Hull did in the last two years. Hull survived luckily for them.

And how many more clubs have seen their league form improve as they went on a cup run - Manchester United in 1990 being the most obvious. example.

Man U were not fighting relegation in 1990.  A cup run gave them freedom. A freedom that is not afforded to us as we speak.

Oh yes they were. They were no higher in the league than us.

Just checked and maybe that is correct. Recent form has flew in the face of this however.

Offline andyh

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Re: The Dilemma
« Reply #27 on: January 25, 2015, 10:05:55 PM »
The FA cup is the holy grail for many of us, particularly those of a certain age.
But, relegation can never be a good thing, and there are no guarantees that we would return quickly.
Relegation? NO, NEVER.

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Re: The Dilemma
« Reply #28 on: January 25, 2015, 10:12:28 PM »
So hacked by the PL, I would now take the cup.

Offline dave.woodhall

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Re: The Dilemma
« Reply #29 on: January 25, 2015, 10:14:12 PM »
Why is it always the same options? They're not mutually inclusive.

Of course not. Everybody wants to win the cup and stop up. Nobody wants to get relegated with no cup. The dilemma put forward is yielding a near 50/50 result so far.

This could become more real as we progress further in the cup and potentially take our eye of the ball in the league as Wigan and Hull did in the last two years. Hull survived luckily for them.

And how many more clubs have seen their league form improve as they went on a cup run - Manchester United in 1990 being the most obvious. example.

Man U were not fighting relegation in 1990.  A cup run gave them freedom. A freedom that is not afforded to us as we speak.

Oh yes they were. They were no higher in the league than us.

Just checked and maybe that is correct. Recent form has flew in the face of this however.

It made no difference to Portsmouth in 2010 or Stoke in 2011. This time last season Hull were 13th and finished 16th - hardly a massive slump. At the same time in 2013 Wigan were 19th and finished 18th. 

 


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