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[Damo70]

There is a plan in there, Lambert has just been unlucky.

Sorry that's not what I really think, he should have been sacked in the summer, what we have witnessed has been the stuff of nightmares.
Can you believe these last few years?!

What I can't believe is that Lerner has been allowed to get away with it. That's the real travesty.

So you keep saying. What do you suggest should be done, and why don't you do it?

I'm not high profile like you. Why don't you do something about it?

Because I don't want to.

I won't lie Dave, I am disappointed in you. If Bob Geldof had adopted the same attitude I wouldn't have had the pleasure of teaching my kids the lyrics to 'Do They Know It's Christmas' this Christmas morning and we would have missed out on the resulting singalong whenever it came on the music channels.

[Dave Cooper please]

I've said it often enough - I don't want a different owner, I want the one we've got to do a better job.

I think that ship sailed a long time ago.

Right.so go on, if you feel so strongly do something.
Why rely on a fanzine editor who clearly isn't as radical as you, get out there and protest. You have many like minded souls on here, I'm sure they will all be there alongside you as you storm the barricades.
Tell you what, the first protest you and all the like minded souls on here organise I promise to turn up and hand out leaflets or march up the Witton Lane or do whatever else you propose.
Got a nice name for your group yet?

[adrenachrome]

Anybody running on the pitch to occupy the centre circle or thinking of marching to occupy newspaper offices in Colmore Square in these times are likely to be kettled, sprayed with CS gas, finger printed, DNA'd and extraordinarily rendered to fuckbeckistan for waterboarding, rectal feeding, electric light probing, ice baths and forced to live upside down in coffins. Not gonna happen. The kidz don't need that fascist groove thang. 

Those seriously interested in protesting should use the Customer Order Numbers of supporters who have been loyal in the past but have now given up the ghost. This would be real leverage and might even influence potential investors. 

Viagogo is doing great business from increasing swathes of rapidly diminishing season ticket holders who don't want to go, but soon we will have WeAreNoGo to buy the tickets from the ViaGoGo people who don't want to go, and then IShouldCoco as the bottom bucket in the ticket cascade. Booking fees, commissions and VAT all along the line: it's all good.

[Clampy]

There is a plan in there, Lambert has just been unlucky.

Sorry that's not what I really think, he should have been sacked in the summer, what we have witnessed has been the stuff of nightmares.
Can you believe these last few years?!

What I can't believe is that Lerner has been allowed to get away with it. That's the real travesty.

So you keep saying. What do you suggest should be done, and why don't you do it?

I'm not high profile like you. Why don't you do something about it?

Because I don't want to.

I realised that a long long time ago.

And you clearly have a problem with it so I repeat - why not do something yourself?

Yes we've been here before, Dave. I do often wonder why a high profile supporter like you who edits the only independent Villa fanzine doesn't seem to have a problem with the way the chairman ran the football club during these last 5 or so awful years.
You say you "just don't want to". That's fair enough I suppose.

Of course it's fair enough. And I wouldn't call Dave 'high profile' anyway. He dosen't write the fanzine himself, it gets contributed to, just like this place. Anyone could start a protest if they wanted to.

[silhillvilla]

I thought the protest had begun already and is reflected in the home attendance figures ?

[AV82EC]

I thought the protest had begun already and is reflected in the home attendance figures ?

Yep my protest has started by giving up the season ticket and picking and choosing games. If Lerner continues to run the club in such a shambolic manner including the employment of the current manager and the "football" he serves up then that will turn into a full on boycott next year. This is 1998 all over again for me....

[rob_bridge]

I thought the protest had begun already and is reflected in the home attendance figures ?

Yep my protest has started by giving up the season ticket and picking and choosing games. If Lerner continues to run the club in such a shambolic manner including the employment of the current manager and the "football" he serves up then that will turn into a full on boycott next year. This is 1998 all over again for me....

If we'd had the results in this calendar year 2014 that we had in 1998 I dare say our gripes would be of a different nature.

[rob_bridge]

I thought the protest had begun already and is reflected in the home attendance figures ?

Yep my protest has started by giving up the season ticket and picking and choosing games. If Lerner continues to run the club in such a shambolic manner including the employment of the current manager and the "football" he serves up then that will turn into a full on boycott next year. This is 1998 all over again for me....

If we'd had the results in this calendar year 2014 that we had in 1998 I dare say our gripes would be of a different nature.

[AV82EC]

I thought the protest had begun already and is reflected in the home attendance figures ?

Yep my protest has started by giving up the season ticket and picking and choosing games. If Lerner continues to run the club in such a shambolic manner including the employment of the current manager and the "football" he serves up then that will turn into a full on boycott next year. This is 1998 all over again for me....

If we'd had the results in this calendar year 2014 that we had in 1998 I dare say our gripes would be of a different nature.

The UEFA Qtr Final did for me that season. I stormed out of the ground and didn't return for 6 years my small insignificant protest at the opportunities Ellis was squandering for the sake of his ego. I realise it made no difference but I'd like to think I was in some way vindicated by history?

[saunders_heroes]

I've said it often enough - I don't want a different owner, I want the one we've got to do a better job.

I think that ship sailed a long time ago.

Right.so go on, if you feel so strongly do something.
Why rely on a fanzine editor who clearly isn't as radical as you, get out there and protest. You have many like minded souls on here, I'm sure they will all be there alongside you as you storm the barricades.
Tell you what, the first protest you and all the like minded souls on here organise I promise to turn up and hand out leaflets or march up the Witton Lane or do whatever else you propose.
Got a nice name for your group yet?

We need high profile fans to start a protest (unlike me), you know like fans who used to bitch and scream whenever Ellis would as much as look at someone the wrong way. Fans who are used to talking to the press and would turn up to the opening of an envelope (where is Fear these days?)
We also need the Holte End to make some bloody noise in protest at the disgrace we have become instead of singing about Small Heath down the road.
Sadly though apathy rules at Villa Park these days.

[saunders_heroes]

There is a plan in there, Lambert has just been unlucky.

Sorry that's not what I really think, he should have been sacked in the summer, what we have witnessed has been the stuff of nightmares.
Can you believe these last few years?!

What I can't believe is that Lerner has been allowed to get away with it. That's the real travesty.

So you keep saying. What do you suggest should be done, and why don't you do it?

I'm not high profile like you. Why don't you do something about it?

Because I don't want to.

I realised that a long long time ago.

And you clearly have a problem with it so I repeat - why not do something yourself?

Yes we've been here before, Dave. I do often wonder why a high profile supporter like you who edits the only independent Villa fanzine doesn't seem to have a problem with the way the chairman ran the football club during these last 5 or so awful years.
You say you "just don't want to". That's fair enough I suppose.

Of course it's fair enough. And I wouldn't call Dave 'high profile' anyway. He dosen't write the fanzine himself, it gets contributed to, just like this place. Anyone could start a protest if they wanted to.

I didn't say he wrote the fanzine I said he was a high profile fan who edits Villa's only independent fanzine. I've seen and heard him being interview on the TV and radio numerous times, so nes high profile enough.

[rob_bridge]

I thought the protest had begun already and is reflected in the home attendance figures ?

Yep my protest has started by giving up the season ticket and picking and choosing games. If Lerner continues to run the club in such a shambolic manner including the employment of the current manager and the "football" he serves up then that will turn into a full on boycott next year. This is 1998 all over again for me....

If we'd had the results in this calendar year 2014 that we had in 1998 I dare say our gripes would be of a different nature.

The UEFA Qtr Final did for me that season. I stormed out of the ground and didn't return for 6 years my small insignificant protest at the opportunities Ellis was squandering for the sake of his ego. I realise it made no difference but I'd like to think I was in some way vindicated by history?

UEFA Cup Quarter Final - what's one of them nowadays? For that matter what's a Top 8 finish? Top half finish?

[saunders_heroes]

I thought the protest had begun already and is reflected in the home attendance figures ?

Yep my protest has started by giving up the season ticket and picking and choosing games. If Lerner continues to run the club in such a shambolic manner including the employment of the current manager and the "football" he serves up then that will turn into a full on boycott next year. This is 1998 all over again for me....

If we'd had the results in this calendar year 2014 that we had in 1998 I dare say our gripes would be of a different nature.

The UEFA Qtr Final did for me that season. I stormed out of the ground and didn't return for 6 years my small insignificant protest at the opportunities Ellis was squandering for the sake of his ego. I realise it made no difference but I'd like to think I was in some way vindicated by history?

UEFA Cup Quarter Final - what's one of them nowadays? For that matter what's a Top 8 finish? Top half finish?

Indeed.

[Clampy]

My point was that anyone who comes on here or contributes to the fanzine can start up a protest. Just because Dave edits a fanzine and speaks on the radio and TV a few times a year shouldn't mean he HAS to be the one who kick starts something.

[dave.woodhall]

I didn't say he wrote the fanzine I said he was a high profile fan who edits Villa's only independent fanzine. I've seen and heard him being interview on the TV and radio numerous times, so nes high profile enough.

Thank you for thinking I'm so important that my opinions and actions would be noted by a billionaire 4,000 miles away. I'm honoured.