Quote from: saunders_heroes on December 30, 2014, 10:18:01 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on December 30, 2014, 10:12:18 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on December 30, 2014, 10:08:36 PMQuote from: Malandro on December 30, 2014, 07:39:57 PMThere is a plan in there, Lambert has just been unlucky.Sorry that's not what I really think, he should have been sacked in the summer, what we have witnessed has been the stuff of nightmares.Can you believe these last few years?!What I can't believe is that Lerner has been allowed to get away with it. That's the real travesty. So you keep saying. What do you suggest should be done, and why don't you do it?I'm not high profile like you. Why don't you do something about it?Because I don't want to.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on December 30, 2014, 10:12:18 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on December 30, 2014, 10:08:36 PMQuote from: Malandro on December 30, 2014, 07:39:57 PMThere is a plan in there, Lambert has just been unlucky.Sorry that's not what I really think, he should have been sacked in the summer, what we have witnessed has been the stuff of nightmares.Can you believe these last few years?!What I can't believe is that Lerner has been allowed to get away with it. That's the real travesty. So you keep saying. What do you suggest should be done, and why don't you do it?I'm not high profile like you. Why don't you do something about it?
Quote from: saunders_heroes on December 30, 2014, 10:08:36 PMQuote from: Malandro on December 30, 2014, 07:39:57 PMThere is a plan in there, Lambert has just been unlucky.Sorry that's not what I really think, he should have been sacked in the summer, what we have witnessed has been the stuff of nightmares.Can you believe these last few years?!What I can't believe is that Lerner has been allowed to get away with it. That's the real travesty. So you keep saying. What do you suggest should be done, and why don't you do it?
Quote from: Malandro on December 30, 2014, 07:39:57 PMThere is a plan in there, Lambert has just been unlucky.Sorry that's not what I really think, he should have been sacked in the summer, what we have witnessed has been the stuff of nightmares.Can you believe these last few years?!What I can't believe is that Lerner has been allowed to get away with it. That's the real travesty.
There is a plan in there, Lambert has just been unlucky.Sorry that's not what I really think, he should have been sacked in the summer, what we have witnessed has been the stuff of nightmares.Can you believe these last few years?!
Quote from: dave.woodhall on December 30, 2014, 11:24:35 PMI've said it often enough - I don't want a different owner, I want the one we've got to do a better job. I think that ship sailed a long time ago.
I've said it often enough - I don't want a different owner, I want the one we've got to do a better job.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on December 30, 2014, 11:12:22 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on December 30, 2014, 11:01:47 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on December 30, 2014, 10:47:30 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on December 30, 2014, 10:18:01 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on December 30, 2014, 10:12:18 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on December 30, 2014, 10:08:36 PMQuote from: Malandro on December 30, 2014, 07:39:57 PMThere is a plan in there, Lambert has just been unlucky.Sorry that's not what I really think, he should have been sacked in the summer, what we have witnessed has been the stuff of nightmares.Can you believe these last few years?!What I can't believe is that Lerner has been allowed to get away with it. That's the real travesty. So you keep saying. What do you suggest should be done, and why don't you do it?I'm not high profile like you. Why don't you do something about it?Because I don't want to. I realised that a long long time ago. And you clearly have a problem with it so I repeat - why not do something yourself?Yes we've been here before, Dave. I do often wonder why a high profile supporter like you who edits the only independent Villa fanzine doesn't seem to have a problem with the way the chairman ran the football club during these last 5 or so awful years. You say you "just don't want to". That's fair enough I suppose.
Quote from: saunders_heroes on December 30, 2014, 11:01:47 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on December 30, 2014, 10:47:30 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on December 30, 2014, 10:18:01 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on December 30, 2014, 10:12:18 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on December 30, 2014, 10:08:36 PMQuote from: Malandro on December 30, 2014, 07:39:57 PMThere is a plan in there, Lambert has just been unlucky.Sorry that's not what I really think, he should have been sacked in the summer, what we have witnessed has been the stuff of nightmares.Can you believe these last few years?!What I can't believe is that Lerner has been allowed to get away with it. That's the real travesty. So you keep saying. What do you suggest should be done, and why don't you do it?I'm not high profile like you. Why don't you do something about it?Because I don't want to. I realised that a long long time ago. And you clearly have a problem with it so I repeat - why not do something yourself?
Quote from: dave.woodhall on December 30, 2014, 10:47:30 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on December 30, 2014, 10:18:01 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on December 30, 2014, 10:12:18 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on December 30, 2014, 10:08:36 PMQuote from: Malandro on December 30, 2014, 07:39:57 PMThere is a plan in there, Lambert has just been unlucky.Sorry that's not what I really think, he should have been sacked in the summer, what we have witnessed has been the stuff of nightmares.Can you believe these last few years?!What I can't believe is that Lerner has been allowed to get away with it. That's the real travesty. So you keep saying. What do you suggest should be done, and why don't you do it?I'm not high profile like you. Why don't you do something about it?Because I don't want to. I realised that a long long time ago.
I thought the protest had begun already and is reflected in the home attendance figures ?
Quote from: silhillvilla on December 31, 2014, 09:58:40 AMI thought the protest had begun already and is reflected in the home attendance figures ?Yep my protest has started by giving up the season ticket and picking and choosing games. If Lerner continues to run the club in such a shambolic manner including the employment of the current manager and the "football" he serves up then that will turn into a full on boycott next year. This is 1998 all over again for me....
Quote from: AV82EC on December 31, 2014, 10:06:37 AMQuote from: silhillvilla on December 31, 2014, 09:58:40 AMI thought the protest had begun already and is reflected in the home attendance figures ?Yep my protest has started by giving up the season ticket and picking and choosing games. If Lerner continues to run the club in such a shambolic manner including the employment of the current manager and the "football" he serves up then that will turn into a full on boycott next year. This is 1998 all over again for me....If we'd had the results in this calendar year 2014 that we had in 1998 I dare say our gripes would be of a different nature.
Quote from: saunders_heroes on December 30, 2014, 11:28:17 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on December 30, 2014, 11:24:35 PMI've said it often enough - I don't want a different owner, I want the one we've got to do a better job. I think that ship sailed a long time ago. Right.so go on, if you feel so strongly do something.Why rely on a fanzine editor who clearly isn't as radical as you, get out there and protest. You have many like minded souls on here, I'm sure they will all be there alongside you as you storm the barricades.Tell you what, the first protest you and all the like minded souls on here organise I promise to turn up and hand out leaflets or march up the Witton Lane or do whatever else you propose.Got a nice name for your group yet?
Quote from: saunders_heroes on December 30, 2014, 11:19:52 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on December 30, 2014, 11:12:22 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on December 30, 2014, 11:01:47 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on December 30, 2014, 10:47:30 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on December 30, 2014, 10:18:01 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on December 30, 2014, 10:12:18 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on December 30, 2014, 10:08:36 PMQuote from: Malandro on December 30, 2014, 07:39:57 PMThere is a plan in there, Lambert has just been unlucky.Sorry that's not what I really think, he should have been sacked in the summer, what we have witnessed has been the stuff of nightmares.Can you believe these last few years?!What I can't believe is that Lerner has been allowed to get away with it. That's the real travesty. So you keep saying. What do you suggest should be done, and why don't you do it?I'm not high profile like you. Why don't you do something about it?Because I don't want to. I realised that a long long time ago. And you clearly have a problem with it so I repeat - why not do something yourself?Yes we've been here before, Dave. I do often wonder why a high profile supporter like you who edits the only independent Villa fanzine doesn't seem to have a problem with the way the chairman ran the football club during these last 5 or so awful years. You say you "just don't want to". That's fair enough I suppose. Of course it's fair enough. And I wouldn't call Dave 'high profile' anyway. He dosen't write the fanzine himself, it gets contributed to, just like this place. Anyone could start a protest if they wanted to.
Quote from: rob_bridge on December 31, 2014, 10:10:58 AMQuote from: AV82EC on December 31, 2014, 10:06:37 AMQuote from: silhillvilla on December 31, 2014, 09:58:40 AMI thought the protest had begun already and is reflected in the home attendance figures ?Yep my protest has started by giving up the season ticket and picking and choosing games. If Lerner continues to run the club in such a shambolic manner including the employment of the current manager and the "football" he serves up then that will turn into a full on boycott next year. This is 1998 all over again for me....If we'd had the results in this calendar year 2014 that we had in 1998 I dare say our gripes would be of a different nature.The UEFA Qtr Final did for me that season. I stormed out of the ground and didn't return for 6 years my small insignificant protest at the opportunities Ellis was squandering for the sake of his ego. I realise it made no difference but I'd like to think I was in some way vindicated by history?
Quote from: AV82EC on December 31, 2014, 10:15:40 AMQuote from: rob_bridge on December 31, 2014, 10:10:58 AMQuote from: AV82EC on December 31, 2014, 10:06:37 AMQuote from: silhillvilla on December 31, 2014, 09:58:40 AMI thought the protest had begun already and is reflected in the home attendance figures ?Yep my protest has started by giving up the season ticket and picking and choosing games. If Lerner continues to run the club in such a shambolic manner including the employment of the current manager and the "football" he serves up then that will turn into a full on boycott next year. This is 1998 all over again for me....If we'd had the results in this calendar year 2014 that we had in 1998 I dare say our gripes would be of a different nature.The UEFA Qtr Final did for me that season. I stormed out of the ground and didn't return for 6 years my small insignificant protest at the opportunities Ellis was squandering for the sake of his ego. I realise it made no difference but I'd like to think I was in some way vindicated by history?UEFA Cup Quarter Final - what's one of them nowadays? For that matter what's a Top 8 finish? Top half finish?
I didn't say he wrote the fanzine I said he was a high profile fan who edits Villa's only independent fanzine. I've seen and heard him being interview on the TV and radio numerous times, so nes high profile enough.