Getting the message across

[N'ZMAV]

Stop putting your money in - that's the only way to do it.

[mr underhill]

exactly. if the ground echo's to  just a few thousand - as it has in the past - the penny will literally begin to drop.

[john e]

Theirs no point having a Randy out banner

He wants out

[N'ZMAV]

Randy probably has his own 'Randy Out' banner...

[ez]

It's difficult for the club to express disappointment at the attendances when the owner is one of those not going.

[claret and blue blood]

Some of our comments on this subject make you want to laugh and cry at the same time.

[CJ]

The problem with having a half empty ground in the hope that the penny will drop will backfire on the fans - the media will just say we are fickle, and the club don't really care because the TV deal means the armchair fan is more important to them than us mugs who show up every week. We need to find a way to publicise just how shocking Lambert's record is - worst home record in our history, record defeats without scoring, the least number of goals scored in the entire football pyramid, routinely getting dumped out of cup competitions to lower league sides, negative tactics etc etc. Someone had a good bedsheet message at Burnley yesterday - 'the stats don't lie'. Highlighting Lambert's failings with banners like that will work better than just not turning up.

[Witton Warrior]

The problem with having a half empty ground in the hope that the penny will drop will backfire on the fans - the media will just say we are fickle, and the club don't really care because the TV deal means the armchair fan is more important to them than us mugs who show up every week. We need to find a way to publicise just how shocking Lambert's record is - worst home record in our history, record defeats without scoring, the least number of goals scored in the entire football pyramid, routinely getting dumped out of cup competitions to lower league sides, negative tactics etc etc. Someone had a good bedsheet message at Burnley yesterday - 'the stats don't lie'. Highlighting Lambert's failings with banners like that will work better than just not turning up.

Has it been picked up in the press? What we need is a Villa-friendly journalist who can run with it. Anyone?

[Drummond]

When Ellis ran the club he cared what people thought of him and the club. He lived and breathed it. He would have been far too embarrassed to allow this to continue and the financial impact would also have been to great.

Lerner doesn't care about reputation, he's not here enough for it to affect him. It won't affect him financially either, the TV cash sees to that.

[silhillvilla]

I know it's all ifs and buts, however if benteke didn't lose his head the other week we win that game and we were close and should have seen out saints and burnley , that's another 7 points we'd have and we'd be joint 6th.
I'm not sure myself though if we are a million miles away or close to getting a good team.

[mr underhill]

I think you're right - there is the basis of a reasonable side there when everyone is fit. It's the way they're not  being coached/motivated/led that's the problem. Talking of crowds, I vaguely remember going in the early 70s to a home game and sharing the ground with about 8-11 thousand plus what seemed to be as many pigeons. Can't remember for the life of me who we were playing but I do remember the echo's. It was all very eerie.

[andyh]

And if Ings hadn't hit the post in the 90th minute yeterday, and if Wiemann had miss hit his shot at Stoke, and if Guzan hadn't made a wonder save at West Ham....

You could go on, and on.


Maybe that's glass half full v half empty syndrome! 

[silhillvilla]

Guess the reality is after 13 games everything evens itself out by now and we are sat in our rightful position. It's probably about where we will end up after 38 games , although over the last 38 games haven't we only gathered 31 points ? That's relegation form.

[dave.woodhall]

If we lose to Palace and he still doesn't sack him, boycott the Leicester game or turn up and leave a card on your seat stating the obvious,then go home before the match starts.Westley ( so obviously planted by the club) can then sit there on his own.

Nobody's been planted anywhere so let's stop this nonsense right now.

[WarszaVillan]

What the club have to sort out immediately is the backroom staff. They need to recruit two top quality assistants/coaches. I can never remember there being such a mess in that department, and it shows.