Samir Carruthers joins MK Dons

[David_Nab]

Samir Carruthers  has left permanently , joined MK dons

(probably worth its own topic, so I've split this out of the transfer thread - Dave)

[DrGonzo]

Anyone left at VP?

[RussellC]

Any money involved?

[Clampy]

Samir Carruthers  has left permanently , joined MK dons

A tad bit disappointed about that because it looked like he had some promise, but it was unlikely that he was ever going to get a chance.

[Toronto Villa]

attitude issues? He seemed to show ability but you have to be dedicated too even when the chips are down.

[paul_e]

attitude issues? He seemed to show ability but you have to be dedicated too even when the chips are down.

I'd go with this, him and Grealish both went out on loan last year to clubs where they'd be expected to look a class above if they were ready for the premier league; Grealish regularly did, Carruthers rarely did.  Given that Carruthers is older and had premier league appearances under his belt where he looked like he had the talent to make it you have to assume that there's something not quite right there, attitude and specifically the will to really push on is the normal culprit.

[RussellC]

attitude issues? He seemed to show ability but you have to be dedicated too even when the chips are down.

I never got that impression. I don't MK Dons would have wanted him if his attitude was in question. If anything I think he's probably just fallen victim to Grealish's progress.

[RussellC]

attitude issues? He seemed to show ability but you have to be dedicated too even when the chips are down.

I'd go with this, him and Grealish both went out on loan last year to clubs where they'd be expected to look a class above if they were ready for the premier league; Grealish regularly did, Carruthers rarely did.  Given that Carruthers is older and had premier league appearances under his belt where he looked like he had the talent to make it you have to assume that there's something not quite right there, attitude and specifically the will to really push on is the normal culprit.

Or simply that he's just not as good as Grealish?  Certainly, he didn't seem to have the pace (or more specifically acceleration) to make it as a winger to me, and only ever really stood out as a 'number 10' in the Youth Team.

[ADVILLAFAN]

He was better than Herd I thought, but maybe not quite good enough for the top flight (not that it's stopped Baker and Clark getting lots of games).

[RussellC]

He was better than Herd I thought, but maybe not quite good enough for the top flight (not that it's stopped Baker and Clark getting lots of games).

A completely different type of player to Herd though. I think he's just found his level. Good luck to him.

[ADVILLAFAN]

He was better than Herd I thought, but maybe not quite good enough for the top flight (not that it's stopped Baker and Clark getting lots of games).

A completely different type of player to Herd though. I think he's just found his level. Good luck to him.

Not really, Carruthers has played in central midfield the last few times I've seen him play, which is Herd's position.

[RussellC]

He was better than Herd I thought, but maybe not quite good enough for the top flight (not that it's stopped Baker and Clark getting lots of games).

A completely different type of player to Herd though. I think he's just found his level. Good luck to him.

Not really, Carruthers has played in central midfield the last few times I've seen him play, which is Herd's position.

Except that one's very much an attacking midfielder / winger and the other very much a defensive midfielder / centre-back / right back. They're not comparable players in the slightest.

[Hoppo]

He had a bad injury last season. I think another season out on loan would have been better. I'm sick of all these youth players never stepping up or not being given the chance.
Its something the club need to sort out.

[pauliewalnuts]

Seems a bit tough to assume attitude issues. If he was on loan to MK Dons and they've now bought him permanently, that suggests no problem there.

Maybe he's just not good enough?

[RussellC]

He had a bad injury last season. I think another season out on loan would have been better. I'm sick of all these youth players never stepping up or not being given the chance.
Its something the club need to sort out.

That's not really fair either. Agbonlahor, Weimann, Baker, Clark and Grealish are all very much part of the current first team squad. The club are guilty of a lot of things at present, but not giving youth a chance is hardly one of them.

I'm not quite sure why we're so reluctant to just accept that Carruthers wasn't quite good enough and moved on?