Aston Villa in doesn't want Chairmen/women of official supporters clubs to be abusing people online shocker!This is a story how exactly?
I am not one of those people, so there is a limit to how upset I can get about it, but I do think it seems like unnecessary control by the club, coming at a time when, frankly, they need all the support they can get.Then, who defines what "abuse" is?It is one of those terms which is easily defined differently from one person to another.
Quote from: ciggiesnbeer on August 03, 2014, 06:20:41 PMAston Villa in doesn't want Chairmen/women of official supporters clubs to be abusing people online shocker!This is a story how exactly? The question is whether they have the right to tell the people what they should and should not be doing on the internet.Also, note this:“You will not partake in any abusive conversations towards anyone associated with the Club in any public forum, whether this is on a page that is personal to you and bears your name, OR on a page that bears the name of your Lions Club (including social media, Facebook, Twitter, etc).”I am not one of those people, so there is a limit to how upset I can get about it, but I do think it seems like unnecessary control by the club, coming at a time when, frankly, they need all the support they can get.Then, who defines what "abuse" is?It is one of those terms which is easily defined differently from one person to another.
Quote from: pauliewalnuts on August 03, 2014, 06:27:46 PMQuote from: ciggiesnbeer on August 03, 2014, 06:20:41 PMAston Villa in doesn't want Chairmen/women of official supporters clubs to be abusing people online shocker!This is a story how exactly? The question is whether they have the right to tell the people what they should and should not be doing on the internet.Also, note this:“You will not partake in any abusive conversations towards anyone associated with the Club in any public forum, whether this is on a page that is personal to you and bears your name, OR on a page that bears the name of your Lions Club (including social media, Facebook, Twitter, etc).”I am not one of those people, so there is a limit to how upset I can get about it, but I do think it seems like unnecessary control by the club, coming at a time when, frankly, they need all the support they can get.Then, who defines what "abuse" is?It is one of those terms which is easily defined differently from one person to another.Why is it these days that everybody expects to say what they like, at any time, about anybody and be as abusive as they like. Even more so when the person on the end of what they say is not in a position to defend themselves. I suppose it is all down to what people think is 'freedom of speech' in their written comments. What some people forget is 'subject to the laws against libel', which fortunately for many are not pursued.
The instances of this mattering would be very rare, personal abuse of Lamberts family for example, or racially abusing one of our players springs to mind.
Quote from: ciggiesnbeer on August 03, 2014, 06:40:09 PMThe instances of this mattering would be very rare, personal abuse of Lamberts family for example, or racially abusing one of our players springs to mind.Yes, I'd agree with that, but the question is, where is the line being drawn generally?And something like racial abuse is illegal in any case, so that would go without saying.
Quote from: saunders_heroes on August 03, 2014, 11:30:08 AMQuote from: andyh on August 03, 2014, 11:22:01 AMhttp://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/aston-villa-fans-backlash-over-7552040Is there anything in this story or someone just shit stirring ?.I think the one point where the problem lies is "you must not get involved in any abusive conversations involving the club". It depends what they consider abusive. Is constructive criticism classed as abusive?Exactly.What, for example, is this: "Tonev is shit"? Other than a fact obviously ;-) That could be interpreted as either.
Quote from: andyh on August 03, 2014, 11:22:01 AMhttp://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/aston-villa-fans-backlash-over-7552040Is there anything in this story or someone just shit stirring ?.I think the one point where the problem lies is "you must not get involved in any abusive conversations involving the club". It depends what they consider abusive. Is constructive criticism classed as abusive?
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/aston-villa-fans-backlash-over-7552040Is there anything in this story or someone just shit stirring ?.
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