Dictatorial Villa?

[andyh]

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/aston-villa-fans-backlash-over-7552040

Is there anything in this story or someone just shit stirring ?.

[Clampy]

I know a Lions Club chairman who refused to go to the end of season Lions Club awards back in May because of some of the issues.

[dave.woodhall]

It looks like a bit of both, and as with everything like this it depends how the regulations are interpreted. I can understand why the Villa would say tickets can't be passed on - that's the rules even though realistically they are never applied. But there's a bit of difference between this

In point seven of the code, chairmen are effectively barred from criticising club officials, even on their own personal social media pages.

and this

It reads: “You will not partake in any abusive conversations towards anyone associated with the Club in any public forum."

You can be critical without being abusive.

[saunders_heroes]

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/aston-villa-fans-backlash-over-7552040

Is there anything in this story or someone just shit stirring ?.

I think the one point where the problem lies is "you must not get involved in any abusive conversations involving the club".
It depends what they consider abusive. Is constructive criticism classed as abusive?

[Clampy]

It looks like a bit of both, and as with everything like this it depends how the regulations are interpreted. I can understand why the Villa would say tickets can't be passed on - that's the rules even though realistically they are never applied. But there's a bit of difference between this

In point seven of the code, chairmen are effectively barred from criticising club officials, even on their own personal social media pages.

and this

It reads: “You will not partake in any abusive conversations towards anyone associated with the Club in any public forum."

You can be critical without being abusive.

That's a good point.

[bertlambshank]

Unless the club are giving them 'freebies' I know what I would be telling the club.

[dave.woodhall]

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/aston-villa-fans-backlash-over-7552040

Is there anything in this story or someone just shit stirring ?.

I think the one point where the problem lies is "you must not get involved in any abusive conversations involving the club".
It depends what they consider abusive. Is constructive criticism classed as abusive?

The rule says abusive, the writer says criticism. Anyone with any sense would know there's a big difference between the two. It's the sort of story we don't need and should have been dealt with at the time, though.

[Gregorys Boy]

Yeah, the way it reads is a bit vague.  What they're getting at might just be a basic common sense "don't make personally comments" type thing, but it is easy to see how it could be read a different way.  I'm not sure there is much to this, even the most clueless business person would know that it is not wise to run things like a dictatorship. 

[bertlambshank]

What do the club chairman get for running the clubs?

[pbavfckuwait]

So the club now want to dictate what certain individuals post on their own personal social media pages, I am sure that these people are also paying customers of Aston Villa and although they may get certain privileges from their position, they are not paid by the club, but toe the line or get out.
Abusive comments aimed at individuals, maybe not acceptable, but the club PR timing yet again stinks.
Now we know why the players are crap, as someone at the club keeps shooting them in the foot. Please Randy get a buyer soon, I am sure you are trying, but try a little harder before the club is totally destroyed, by you and your lackeys.

[pauliewalnuts]

Genuine question but this is from Doogan:

It is simply an attempt to prevent ticket touting, which is against the law.

How does that square up with what Viagogo do?

[pauliewalnuts]

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/aston-villa-fans-backlash-over-7552040

Is there anything in this story or someone just shit stirring ?.

I think the one point where the problem lies is "you must not get involved in any abusive conversations involving the club".
It depends what they consider abusive. Is constructive criticism classed as abusive?

Exactly.

What, for example, is this: "Tonev is shit"? Other than a fact obviously ;-)

 That could be interpreted as either.

[Louzie0]

That would be down to context, I suggest.

In the middle of a match thread, if he wasn't playing very well, it's about his performance. He can do better.

On a general discussion, if it's stated baldly about him as a human being, it's personally abusive.  Not a lot of room to find anything constructive there!

[peter w]

So would it have been possible to say "Gareth Barry is a wanker" when he dragged the club through the gutter press? and iflet's say Vlaar went on strike to force a move would we only be able to say that his attitude let's him down?

[PeterWithesShin]

Genuine question but this is from Doogan:

It is simply an attempt to prevent ticket touting, which is against the law.

How does that square up with what Viagogo do?

Viagogo tickets are sold by the club and issued by the club to the person that buys them on Viagogo.