Quote from: nigel on August 02, 2014, 08:28:33 AMQuote from: PeterWithesShin on August 02, 2014, 12:34:33 AMI don't think anyone is saying that. I obviously never saw Pongo or Devey but know they are right at the top of Villa legends. The point is, someone younger will class a player like Ollie as a legend, when he probably isn't. He qualifies as a very good player for us and a cult hero, imo. The problem is the terms legend and world class etc are thrown around so much these days it kind of dilutes what it means. Plus we all have different opinions of what makes a legend. Plenty think Deano, Merson, Dublin are Villa legends for example while I don't. And some folks will love a player and that makes them a legend in their opinion. I've always loved Tony Daley as an example, but he is a cult hero of mine rather than a Villa legend.I'm assuming here that, like myself, you're around the 50+ mark, PWS?We forget that youngsters use the word differently to us, too. If a chap drinks a pint in under 10 seconds, he's regarded as a legend.My lads show me these home made YouTube clips they're found. "Look at this, Dad. What a legend"As supertom says, Legend or Cult Hero, it doesn't matter. In some ways they are the same. 50+? Sod off!
Quote from: PeterWithesShin on August 02, 2014, 12:34:33 AMI don't think anyone is saying that. I obviously never saw Pongo or Devey but know they are right at the top of Villa legends. The point is, someone younger will class a player like Ollie as a legend, when he probably isn't. He qualifies as a very good player for us and a cult hero, imo. The problem is the terms legend and world class etc are thrown around so much these days it kind of dilutes what it means. Plus we all have different opinions of what makes a legend. Plenty think Deano, Merson, Dublin are Villa legends for example while I don't. And some folks will love a player and that makes them a legend in their opinion. I've always loved Tony Daley as an example, but he is a cult hero of mine rather than a Villa legend.I'm assuming here that, like myself, you're around the 50+ mark, PWS?We forget that youngsters use the word differently to us, too. If a chap drinks a pint in under 10 seconds, he's regarded as a legend.My lads show me these home made YouTube clips they're found. "Look at this, Dad. What a legend"As supertom says, Legend or Cult Hero, it doesn't matter. In some ways they are the same.
I don't think anyone is saying that. I obviously never saw Pongo or Devey but know they are right at the top of Villa legends. The point is, someone younger will class a player like Ollie as a legend, when he probably isn't. He qualifies as a very good player for us and a cult hero, imo. The problem is the terms legend and world class etc are thrown around so much these days it kind of dilutes what it means. Plus we all have different opinions of what makes a legend. Plenty think Deano, Merson, Dublin are Villa legends for example while I don't. And some folks will love a player and that makes them a legend in their opinion. I've always loved Tony Daley as an example, but he is a cult hero of mine rather than a Villa legend.
Quote from: PeterWithesShin on August 02, 2014, 11:20:06 AMQuote from: nigel on August 02, 2014, 08:28:33 AMQuote from: PeterWithesShin on August 02, 2014, 12:34:33 AMI don't think anyone is saying that. I obviously never saw Pongo or Devey but know they are right at the top of Villa legends. The point is, someone younger will class a player like Ollie as a legend, when he probably isn't. He qualifies as a very good player for us and a cult hero, imo. The problem is the terms legend and world class etc are thrown around so much these days it kind of dilutes what it means. Plus we all have different opinions of what makes a legend. Plenty think Deano, Merson, Dublin are Villa legends for example while I don't. And some folks will love a player and that makes them a legend in their opinion. I've always loved Tony Daley as an example, but he is a cult hero of mine rather than a Villa legend.I'm assuming here that, like myself, you're around the 50+ mark, PWS?We forget that youngsters use the word differently to us, too. If a chap drinks a pint in under 10 seconds, he's regarded as a legend.My lads show me these home made YouTube clips they're found. "Look at this, Dad. What a legend"As supertom says, Legend or Cult Hero, it doesn't matter. In some ways they are the same. 50+? Sod off! 49?