Thanks people. The group at palace, Holmesdale Fanatics have been going around 5 years longer than ourselves and they are some way ahead of us in terms of the size of the displays they can pull off (I believe they had 2 full stand displays last season) and the atmosphere they can create. We've got some way to go yet but it's something we've got to be patient with, hopefully over the coming years we can grow as a group and go some way to helping make Villa Park the cauldron it once was.