Philippe Senderos

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Whether he signs or not won't make a difference. It's a free and a squad player. Like I said it's along the lines of a James Collins; i.e nothing special. What we need urgently is 4 or 5 top starting quality players and that won't happen until the sale is complete.

What we need is players better than what we have.

Is he?

He's got to be better than Baker and Clark.

He might not be up to much, but surely having played for Arsenal, Milan and Valencia means he's better than those pair? You cannot consistently con that many people can you?

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Can somebody give a synopsis of him? I have seen him play in the flesh a number of times, but I cannot recall much about him.

He's a big lad and has played for some very big clubs is about as much as I know.

[Toronto Villa]

Whether he signs or not won't make a difference. It's a free and a squad player. Like I said it's along the lines of a James Collins; i.e nothing special. What we need urgently is 4 or 5 top starting quality players and that won't happen until the sale is complete.

What we need is players better than what we have.

Is he?

He's got to be better than Baker and Clark.

He might not be up to much, but surely having played for Arsenal, Milan and Valencia means he's better than those pair? You cannot consistently con that many people can you?

If he had never played in England and we had never seen some of the mistakes having played for Milan and Valencia would be very impressive. Unfortunately his time in the PL hasn't been as good so we can only go by that as a reference point. He's a #3 or #4 CB. Again nothing to get hot under the collar over in my opinion.

[pauliewalnuts]

Whether he signs or not won't make a difference. It's a free and a squad player. Like I said it's along the lines of a James Collins; i.e nothing special. What we need urgently is 4 or 5 top starting quality players and that won't happen until the sale is complete.

What we need is players better than what we have.

Is he?

He's got to be better than Baker and Clark.

He might not be up to much, but surely having played for Arsenal, Milan and Valencia means he's better than those pair? You cannot consistently con that many people can you?

Combined total of 19 starts for Valencia and Milan.

It's not a wrist slasher of a signing, but I don't think he's actually that much better than Clark and Baker to warrant signing. That's the thing.

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Well if all he is a third choice centre half for a Premiership side, then he has improved the squad over the chuckle brothers. Given the unusual circumstances we find ourself in, a few mid-table exprienced players is probably the best we can hope for.

[Rigadon]

A 'survive til Christmas' signing.  I've no idea what he's like now but was always underwhelmed by him at arsenal.  Maybe he's better now. 

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Well we can hope that Okore and Vlaar don't suffer from the same level of ridiculous injuries they have thus far (why is it only our best players get injured?) so we only see him in small doses. He's got to have something about him to have played for those clubs, even if he lacked the consistency or ability to maintain it.

I will reserve judgment till I have seen him play, as I am sure the majority will. I cannot help feel that when Vlaar limps off injured in December, him coming on won't have me with my head in my hands as would Baker and Clark.

[saunders_heroes]

Where's this story come from? It'd be a desperate signing if true.

[pauliewalnuts]

Well we can hope that Okore and Vlaar don't suffer from the same level of ridiculous injuries they have thus far (why is it only our best players get injured?) so we only see him in small doses. He's got to have something about him to have played for those clubs, even if he lacked the consistency or ability to maintain it.

I will reserve judgment till I have seen him play, as I am sure the majority will. I cannot help feel that when Vlaar limps off injured in December, him coming on won't have me with my head in my hands as would Baker and Clark.

Well, Senderos will fit in with our centre halves too, then, as he's constantly injured as well.

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He'll only get injured if he puts in a few good performances though.

[pauliewalnuts]

I wouldn't bank on it.

Oh well, let's see how things move on, but this summer we're going to have to sign better players than we already have - and not just slightly better than the really shit ones, either. We can't avoid it for any longer.

[dave.woodhall]

He'll be third or fourth choice. We're not going to get Franz Beckenbauer for that role.

[pauliewalnuts]

Ah, the HarewoodHeskey defence.

[mr woo]

Funny really. It's the kind of signing we could have made two years ago when we were on a blinkered 'young and hungry' crusade and it would have done us a favour. I wonder whether a centre back pairing of Vlaar and Senderos would have been enough to see off Bradford and get a sniff of silverware when we had the chance.

Anyway, if we're looking at signing up Fulhams over the hill rejects surely Hangeland would be the one to go for?

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Ah, the HarewoodHeskey defence.

Not on this occassion; his wages and trasnfer fee take him well out of the Heskey/Harewood stakes.

People keep mentioning Hangerland, but as I recall, he had become so chronically slow that you couldn't tell if he was still moving.