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Re: The cycling thread
« Reply #300 on: December 13, 2017, 10:56:28 PM »
The mans back story is and always was a joke.

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Re: The cycling thread
« Reply #301 on: December 14, 2017, 02:11:18 PM »
Indeed, I've always had my doubts and always wanted it not to be true but this is just daft.

Salbutamol is literally kids stuff, its in every fat schoolkids inhaler but the levels he's been tested with simply cannot be inhaled, it is not a performance enhancer more a performance enabler and even in liquid form it's been proven to not be beneficial and to cause palpitations. Something not right here.

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Re: The cycling thread
« Reply #302 on: December 14, 2017, 03:04:44 PM »
Indeed, I've always had my doubts and always wanted it not to be true but this is just daft.

Salbutamol is literally kids stuff, its in every fat schoolkids inhaler but the levels he's been tested with simply cannot be inhaled, it is not a performance enhancer more a performance enabler and even in liquid form it's been proven to not be beneficial and to cause palpitations. Something not right here.

I read to today though that the levels equate to 8 puffs in 12 hours? If that is true that is hardly excessive?

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Re: The cycling thread
« Reply #303 on: December 14, 2017, 03:16:59 PM »
Indeed, I've always had my doubts and always wanted it not to be true but this is just daft.

Salbutamol is literally kids stuff, its in every fat schoolkids inhaler but the levels he's been tested with simply cannot be inhaled, it is not a performance enhancer more a performance enabler and even in liquid form it's been proven to not be beneficial and to cause palpitations. Something not right here.

I read to today though that the levels equate to 8 puffs in 12 hours? If that is true that is hardly excessive?

Well according to the rules that is excessive, 1600 micro grams per 24 hours or half that in a 12 hour period, thems the rules. Froome didn't break the limit by 1 or 2% he broke it by 100%.

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Re: The cycling thread
« Reply #304 on: December 15, 2017, 11:35:37 AM »
Cath Wiggins had a bit of an outburst on Twitter calling Froome 'a slithering reptile'

Fair play I say.

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Re: The cycling thread
« Reply #305 on: December 15, 2017, 12:16:39 PM »
I read to today though that the levels equate to 8 puffs in 12 hours?

I'm bursting like Finbarr Saunders here

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Re: The cycling thread
« Reply #306 on: December 16, 2017, 08:26:17 AM »
Indeed, I've always had my doubts and always wanted it not to be true but this is just daft.

Salbutamol is literally kids stuff, its in every fat schoolkids inhaler but the levels he's been tested with simply cannot be inhaled, it is not a performance enhancer more a performance enabler and even in liquid form it's been proven to not be beneficial and to cause palpitations. Something not right here.

I read to today though that the levels equate to 8 puffs in 12 hours? If that is true that is hardly excessive?

Well according to the rules that is excessive, 1600 micro grams per 24 hours or half that in a 12 hour period, thems the rules. Froome didn't break the limit by 1 or 2% he broke it by 100%.

Excessive for sure in terms of what is permitted, but I would say perfectly possible in terms of puffs per 12 hours.

The stupidity is the stupidity of it all.

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Re: The cycling thread
« Reply #307 on: December 17, 2017, 12:48:52 PM »
Indeed, I've always had my doubts and always wanted it not to be true but this is just daft.

Salbutamol is literally kids stuff, its in every fat schoolkids inhaler but the levels he's been tested with simply cannot be inhaled, it is not a performance enhancer more a performance enabler and even in liquid form it's been proven to not be beneficial and to cause palpitations. Something not right here.

I read to today though that the levels equate to 8 puffs in 12 hours? If that is true that is hardly excessive?

Well according to the rules that is excessive, 1600 micro grams per 24 hours or half that in a 12 hour period, thems the rules. Froome didn't break the limit by 1 or 2% he broke it by 100%.

Excessive for sure in terms of what is permitted, but I would say perfectly possible in terms of puffs per 12 hours.

The stupidity is the stupidity of it all.

Salbutamol is classed as a masking agent by WADA, so ask yourself why you'd need that much and was it even in vaporised form or was it taken in liquid form?

This stinks.

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Re: The cycling thread
« Reply #308 on: December 17, 2017, 01:09:46 PM »
In more positive news, I pass Steve Abrahams most days on my way to and from work.

http://oneyeartimetrial.org.uk

He’s trying the break the record for the longest distance cycled in a year. Despite snow, ice, health problems and being knocked off his bike and ending up in hospital, he’s still going to hit 1000 Miles this week.

Apparently when the paramedics scraped him off the road and put him in the ambulance, they were worried about his heart rate being 37bpm...he just told them that was normal for him.

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Re: The cycling thread
« Reply #309 on: January 05, 2018, 04:59:35 PM »
Unfortunately It will have to be a superhuman effort between now and the end of March to get the mens record. Which is shame as he is the only one to do it on a normal bike constantly and continuously on public roads rather then the same park for 16 hours a day or ultra flat country. I'm not denigrating the achievements of the last two holders as they still performed an incredible feat, it is just that this is the closest it has come to a pure attempt like Godwin without massive assistance.

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Re: The cycling thread
« Reply #310 on: January 10, 2018, 08:30:01 AM »
Unfortunately It will have to be a superhuman effort between now and the end of March to get the mens record. Which is shame as he is the only one to do it on a normal bike constantly and continuously on public roads rather then the same park for 16 hours a day or ultra flat country. I'm not denigrating the achievements of the last two holders as they still performed an incredible feat, it is just that this is the closest it has come to a pure attempt like Godwin without massive assistance.

Yes, he is pretty much solo the whole time. Doing it in the UK has obvious problems for much of the year. Snow, ice, wind, rain, he cycles through it all. Much less to contend with in other climates. The road I usually see him on is a main single carriageway A road (A505). Lorries and cars thundering past at 60 mph all day. It’s nuts really, he could have chosen a much easier route!

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Re: The cycling thread
« Reply #311 on: January 11, 2018, 08:22:09 AM »
As much as I love riding a bike (and I've seriously looked into doing the RAAM (Ride Across America)) the thought of cycling day after day on UK roads, in UK weather & with UK road users leaves me absolutely cold. What's doubly impressive about this seemingly now failed attempt is the elevation gain which puts pro riders to shame!

Hopefully when he's done he'll add some stats like number of punctures, chains, cassettes & other consumables he went through during the course of the year.

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Re: The cycling thread
« Reply #312 on: March 05, 2018, 10:44:00 AM »
Cath Wiggins had a bit of an outburst on Twitter calling Froome 'a slithering reptile'

Fair play I say.

She had much to say on Twitter today?

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Re: The cycling thread
« Reply #313 on: March 05, 2018, 01:23:29 PM »
This is all very disheartening. 

I wanted to believe two of the greatest athletes the UK has produced were genuine winners, now it's almost impossible to tell what is genuine medicine (asthma) from performance helping, but legal (Wiggins). 

What are we talking here, stripping knighthoods?  What about his gold medal form the Olympics, is that under scrutiny as well?

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Re: The cycling thread
« Reply #314 on: March 05, 2018, 03:56:32 PM »
This is all very disheartening. 

I wanted to believe two of the greatest athletes the UK has produced were genuine winners, now it's almost impossible to tell what is genuine medicine (asthma) from performance helping, but legal (Wiggins). 

What are we talking here, stripping knighthoods?  What about his gold medal form the Olympics, is that under scrutiny as well?

For me the whole thing is a bit of a non-story, he took a steroid, with approval from UKAD and WADA, some people believe it was for performance benefits, he denies it.  Another rumour suggests he may have taken a banned substance after he'd finished a race. Even the wording from UKAD on that one is backwards "Ukad brought no charges after concluding its investigation in November 2017 but said it had been "unable" to prove the package contained fluimucil" surely what they were supposed to be doing was proving it contained something illegal, which they couldn't find any evidence for.

Whether you like him not, whether you think there's something more to this or not, there's not really much going on, certainly not enough for it to be the massive story it's presented as.

 


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