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Offline adrenachrome

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Re: Bears/Pears Cricket Thread 2014
« Reply #105 on: April 17, 2014, 05:48:35 PM »
Managed to take an early wicket:
Hamilton-Brown ct Trott b Patel 54
Joyce 127
Machan in
282-3 another 48 required.
I have attended all 3 days, and it does not augur well for the season, I am said to say.

I have been there for 2 days but i don't feel quite so pessimistic, Wright's bowling a minor cause for concern but not too worried about Chopra
he will come good. Where the real problem lies is around the fielding particularly catching, a number of dropped catches in this game. Bell probably
made a mistake at the toss and remember Sussex are a very good side....we've lost out this time but we will be there or thereabouts by season end.

I agree with you about Chopra, and Clarke would have easily taken the catch that Evans dropped if he were not injured.

It was seeing our seam attack again. They are good in favourable conditions but lack penetration otherwise. I hope to be proved very wrong.   

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Re: Bears/Pears Cricket Thread 2014
« Reply #106 on: April 17, 2014, 06:53:44 PM »
Managed to take an early wicket:
Hamilton-Brown ct Trott b Patel 54
Joyce 127
Machan in
282-3 another 48 required.
I have attended all 3 days, and it does not augur well for the season, I am said to say.

I have been there for 2 days but i don't feel quite so pessimistic, Wright's bowling a minor cause for concern but not too worried about Chopra
he will come good. Where the real problem lies is around the fielding particularly catching, a number of dropped catches in this game. Bell probably
made a mistake at the toss and remember Sussex are a very good side....we've lost out this time but we will be there or thereabouts by season end.

I agree with you about Chopra, and Clarke would have easily taken the catch that Evans dropped if he were not injured.

It was seeing our seam attack again. They are good in favourable conditions but lack penetration otherwise. I hope to be proved very wrong.   

There all much of a muchness, 80-83 mph, all around a similar height. Rankin has to have a big season really.

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Re: Bears/Pears Cricket Thread 2014
« Reply #107 on: April 17, 2014, 10:57:45 PM »

Offline steffo

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Re: Bears/Pears Cricket Thread 2014
« Reply #108 on: April 17, 2014, 11:53:56 PM »
Reported he took two hits to the body from Jordan. A sign that a batsman of his class has lost his eye for the ball. Very sad indeed. A long battle ahead.

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Re: Bears/Pears Cricket Thread 2014
« Reply #109 on: April 18, 2014, 08:24:10 AM »
Sad news. Best of luck Trotty.

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Re: Bears/Pears Cricket Thread 2014
« Reply #110 on: April 18, 2014, 08:54:53 AM »
Sad news indeed. I hope it all works out for him. I fear we won't see him bat for the Bears again which is a real pity, but in the grand scheme of things his health and happiness has to come first.

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Re: Bears/Pears Cricket Thread 2014
« Reply #111 on: April 18, 2014, 09:42:55 AM »
As I thought after Trott's original interview he didn't look right and the likes of Vaughan were well out of order.

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Re: Bears/Pears Cricket Thread 2014
« Reply #112 on: April 18, 2014, 10:42:00 AM »
Aye, Michael Vaughan (and some others) need to take a long look at themselves, some very old fashioned views of depression were (ahem) trotted out when he left the Ashes tour.

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Re: Bears/Pears Cricket Thread 2014
« Reply #113 on: April 18, 2014, 10:52:00 AM »
It's just the fact that what happened to Trott didn't fit their definition of depression and therefore they dismissed it.

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Re: Bears/Pears Cricket Thread 2014
« Reply #114 on: April 18, 2014, 11:57:01 AM »
I disagree, the most old-fashioned view of depression came from Trott himself, saying he was 'just burned out'. That statement led to everything else, I said at the time it read like a guy wanting to make light of stuff and 'man up' and this latest update backs that up, he didn't take it as seriously as he should've himself so to me it's a bit unfair to complain when people take their cues on what was going on from the man himself.

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Re: Bears/Pears Cricket Thread 2014
« Reply #115 on: April 18, 2014, 12:18:31 PM »
Sorry, but Trott trying to make light of his condition doesn't excuse the likes of Vaughan, especially when they had seen it before with Trescothick. All the signs were there even watching on the telly from thousands of miles away. I said in the Ashes thread when he was facing Johnson that his head had gone, he looked a nervous wreck out there.
 Surely one of the things a pundit should do is some basic research before gobbing off about someone bottling it, Trott used to be one of the calmest batsmen out there with all his rituals before every ball, when he started hopping about like a frightened rabbit it was pretty obvious something was very wrong.

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Re: Bears/Pears Cricket Thread 2014
« Reply #116 on: April 18, 2014, 12:25:38 PM »
I agree to an extent, but if after Trott claimed it was merely burnout, Vaughan and co would have penned articles stating Trott was kidding himself, they would have been panned for that too.

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Re: Bears/Pears Cricket Thread 2014
« Reply #117 on: April 18, 2014, 12:54:52 PM »
Not really, penning a sympathetic article about the stresses of being on tour whilst stating that Trott himself has said he is just burned out would have been fine. As it was they just dismissed something that most observers could plainly see, which is why they got slated for it at the time and not just now when it has been confirmed that it wasn't just burn out.

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Re: Bears/Pears Cricket Thread 2014
« Reply #118 on: April 18, 2014, 10:46:33 PM »
Sorry, but Trott trying to make light of his condition doesn't excuse the likes of Vaughan, especially when they had seen it before with Trescothick. All the signs were there even watching on the telly from thousands of miles away. I said in the Ashes thread when he was facing Johnson that his head had gone, he looked a nervous wreck out there.
 Surely one of the things a pundit should do is some basic research before gobbing off about someone bottling it, Trott used to be one of the calmest batsmen out there with all his rituals before every ball, when he started hopping about like a frightened rabbit it was pretty obvious something was very wrong.

I completely agree. Trott diagnosing himself as 'burnt out' was probably either being unaware or unable to face the truth and those in the media jumping all over it was completely out of order.

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Re: Bears/Pears Cricket Thread 2014
« Reply #119 on: April 18, 2014, 11:06:07 PM »
Vaughan had the same problem as Trott but being a so called journalist had to make a name for himself.

Vaughan had the same problem when South Africa came to town in 2007 - he like Trott lost his eye.  Fast bowling can make or break a player.

Vaughan has been there.

 


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