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Offline ROBBO

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Who is the best owner?
« on: February 09, 2014, 12:47:58 AM »
We all have our own opinions about Randy Lerner but it got me thinking who makes a great example of a good owner. I'm not really counting the owners who throw money away like confetti aka Man City i mean an owner who has consistantly supported his club both financially and with good management.

Offline Irish villain

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Re: Who is the best owner?
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2014, 12:51:55 AM »
Everton have a good owner. Sensibly run, competitive for the guts of a decade, can keep hold of their better players when big clubs come sniffing and can finance big deals for the right players.

Take note Randy.

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Re: Who is the best owner?
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2014, 12:53:28 AM »
What's the criteria for a good owner? If you take the emotion out of it, and just judge an owner by what he does or has done financially for the club including backing the manager in the market, or improvements to the facilities and work in the community then Randy has to be one of the best. But if you think this thread is going to go one page before Randy gets called a prick, or equivalent then that's not going to happen. A lot of other fans would love to have our owner looking at purely the facts of his backing and support of the club since 2006.
« Last Edit: February 09, 2014, 12:57:54 AM by Toronto Villa »

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Re: Who is the best owner?
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2014, 12:54:27 AM »
For the football, City's owners are of course. But some things are, unbelievably, more important than football, and I never want Villa associated with people as vile as that horrible family of dictators, slavedrivers and murderers.

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Re: Who is the best owner?
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2014, 12:54:54 AM »
The Swansea owner was seen in the stand today, on MOTD. Obviously a local bloke. That is what we want. An owner who shows leadership and does the best that he can. If he can't match the millions that some clubs have, at least he can put up a fight.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Who is the best owner?
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2014, 12:58:19 AM »
The Swansea owner was seen in the stand today, on MOTD. Obviously a local bloke. That is what we want. An owner who shows leadership and does the best that he can. If he can't match the millions that some clubs have, at least he can put up a fight.

Don't Swansea have a shit load of owners? Including a South African?

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Re: Who is the best owner?
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2014, 01:02:21 AM »
What's wrong with the Man City owners?

They've poured money into the club, but they've also barely put a foot wrong, done lots of work in the local deprived community etc etc.

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Re: Who is the best owner?
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2014, 01:11:44 AM »
The Swansea owner was seen in the stand today, on MOTD. Obviously a local bloke. That is what we want. An owner who shows leadership and does the best that he can. If he can't match the millions that some clubs have, at least he can put up a fight.

Don't Swansea have a shit load of owners? Including a South African?
Maybe he was the Chairman but at least he was Welsh.

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Re: Who is the best owner?
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2014, 01:17:31 AM »
What's wrong with the Man City owners?

They've poured money into the club, but they've also barely put a foot wrong, done lots of work in the local deprived community etc etc.

They're members of a family which, in their own country, throws not only political opponents into jail but also their political opponents' lawyers, routinely employs slave-labour on a mass-scale, is deeply connected to many nasty climate-change denying propeganda organisations in order to protect the oil by which they make the astonishing sums of wealth that remain conspicuously monopolised by the extreme wealthiest in that country and never to help their population, a population squashed under the most strictly-imposed aspects of Sharia while the Mansours live their astonishing playboy lifestyles. They're evil, dictatorial, hypocritical murderers and crooks.

Sorry. I just really hate those people.
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Re: Who is the best owner?
« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2014, 01:21:58 AM »
The Swansea owner was seen in the stand today, on MOTD. Obviously a local bloke. That is what we want. An owner who shows leadership and does the best that he can. If he can't match the millions that some clubs have, at least he can put up a fight.

Don't Swansea have a shit load of owners? Including a South African?
Maybe he was the Chairman but at least he was Welsh.

So we need an English chairman?

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Re: Who is the best owner?
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2014, 02:36:26 AM »
The Swansea owner was seen in the stand today, on MOTD. Obviously a local bloke. That is what we want. An owner who shows leadership and does the best that he can. If he can't match the millions that some clubs have, at least he can put up a fight.

Don't Swansea have a shit load of owners? Including a South African?
Maybe he was the Chairman but at least he was Welsh.
really? Do you honestly think it makes a difference where the owner is from?

For what it's worth, I honestly think Lerner's interest in villa has pretty much evaporated. But if he renewed it, pumped a few more million in and actively involved himself in the running of the club to mount an assault on the top 6, then I wouldn't give a fuck if he was from balshall Heath, baltimore, or the Balkans in truth.

The main issue I see is that we're now drifting, largely due to his intransigence.


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Re: Who is the best owner?
« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2014, 03:55:42 AM »
The reason i discounted City owners and a couple of others is it is easy to build a team when money isn't an issue, i was looking at owners who do not have the luxury of spending 50 mil on any particlar problem but still by appointing good staff and being a smart operator keeps his club healthy. This doesn't solely apply to premiership clubs there must be clubs in lower divisions that just by size will never make it to the premiership but are still run very well.

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Re: Who is the best owner?
« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2014, 08:02:38 AM »
City are giving their managers the money so in that respect they are the best owner - if you discount them then kenwright .

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Re: Who is the best owner?
« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2014, 08:27:36 AM »
My money is on Kenwright he has given till the pips squeak for his club.   I also rate Delia because like Kenwright she has stretched herself to the limit for her club and not just run it as a sometime hobby.

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Re: Who is the best owner?
« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2014, 09:31:49 AM »
... If you take the emotion out of it, and just judge an owner by what he does or has done financially for the club including backing the manager in the market, or improvements to the facilities and work in the community then Randy has to be one of the best....
You're right to point out the good things that Lerner has done; and I'm sure that - despite the good things that they've done - Delia and Kenwright will divide opinion at their respective clubs for lacking the 'ambition' to go the extra mile in the transfer market.


Lerner has done some good stuff at our club.What he has singularly failed to demonstrate is good judgement on the people side: an over-reliance on MON, the absence of a credible 'football man' as a close confidant, the absence of a more broadly-based executive board when he took over; these are all examples of a failing or naivety in the Chairman.
« Last Edit: February 09, 2014, 09:33:49 AM by Mister E »

 


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