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Author Topic: Gary Gardner - Retired  (Read 116148 times)

Offline Gareth

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #450 on: August 11, 2016, 10:11:28 AM »
Looks lost in a 2 in midfield-been very poor in these two games, a chance he had to take.  Can't see RDM picking him on Sat, sure he'll go with Tish & Pointy in the middle

Offline in exile

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #451 on: August 11, 2016, 10:39:43 AM »
Looks lost in a 2 in midfield...

Looks lost in a Villa kit

Offline boozey182

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #452 on: August 11, 2016, 10:59:44 AM »
Wouldn't bin him on the basis of two games but it's hard to defend him based on what we've seen so far.

I agree with this. It's too early to write him off completely but the signs aren't good at the moment. The rave reviews from Forest fans can't have been based on performances like the ones we've seen so far this season and two games isn't enough to judge any player on.

The only thing I'll say in his defence is that we don't have any central midfielders in the whole squad that look comfortable in a two man midfield, so when we play two inadequate players there, they are completely exposed. We won't start getting a grip of games until we can boss the middle, and we won't do that with any two of the players we have. So we need new players and/or a different system. We might see a different side to Gardner and Westwood with more energetic and powerful players next to them. Perhaps.

Offline RussellC

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #453 on: August 11, 2016, 11:00:15 AM »
I think all of our midfielders are suffering at the moment by seemingly not having defined roles. It looks like 2 are being asked to sit in front of the back 4 (those 2 being Gardner and Tshibola last night), but the result is that they're doing exactly that (sitting) and playing side-by-side are being bypassed by simple passes ridiculously easily. it's a bit like watching table-football when we haven't got the ball.

I've always thought that it's much more effective to task one player with anchoring the midfield and let one do the box-to-box stuff. problem is, I don't know who'd be best suited to which role from our current squad. They all seem to be average at both roles, without excelling at either. Without being too defeatist, Sanchez and Veretout would probably have been the 2 most equipped to play in that pair!

Offline Matt Collins

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #454 on: August 11, 2016, 07:54:13 PM »
I tend to like one guy right in front of the centre backs. But it's the bloody championship and plenty of other teams manage it. Jedinak with Tshibola doing the more box to box sounds a better balance to me.

Offline MonsXI

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #455 on: September 11, 2016, 06:33:23 PM »
I'd be over the moon If he never features for us again. Offers nothing infact is a hindrance.

How the Gardner brothers have both played premier league football baffles me.

Offline saunders_heroes

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #456 on: September 11, 2016, 06:37:59 PM »
I'd be over the moon If he never features for us again. Offers nothing infact is a hindrance.

How the Gardner brothers have both played premier league football baffles me.

Craig Gardner (in his defence) has one of the best shots in the game though. Not much else, mind.

Offline QuintonVilla

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #457 on: September 11, 2016, 07:18:10 PM »
As shit as his brother.

Offline oswald funkletrumpet

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #458 on: September 11, 2016, 07:20:09 PM »
he is fucking gash

Offline Des Little

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #459 on: September 11, 2016, 07:28:36 PM »
Well it's a shame but after years of waiting and hoping, the cold hard fact is he's not good enough. He's had chances this season but is just isn't what we need in the middle - by all means keep him as back up but we are extremely vulnerable with him starting games.

Offline SoccerHQ

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #460 on: September 11, 2016, 07:29:47 PM »
Tshibola and Jedinak has to be our middle two from this point onwards.

Hope both are fit for Wednesday.

Offline Matt Collins

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #461 on: September 11, 2016, 07:33:14 PM »
I've been a massive critic of him this season, I thought he's been awful

I actually think he was decent if not spectacular today. And quicker

He gave the ball away badly for the goal, but it was on the edge of their box

I do realise however that with ayew excellent today we need a unanimous scapegoat

I'd obviously have him fourth in line for midfield still

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #462 on: September 11, 2016, 07:39:33 PM »
Shame we didn't buy Henri Lansbury. Would have been another club captain with championship experience but would also offer more to the midfield and get a fair share of goals too.

Offline Matt Collins

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #463 on: September 11, 2016, 07:49:12 PM »
I thought Lansbury was poor today - great finish though

And stupid hair cut

Offline wittonwarrior

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #464 on: September 11, 2016, 08:04:23 PM »
I wouldn't feed Gary Gardner right now.

Ps I hope he gets 50 knocks tonight from Jehovah Witnesses