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Author Topic: Gary Gardner - Retired  (Read 116136 times)

Offline sirlordbaltimore

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #375 on: August 08, 2016, 01:13:22 PM »


I'm not sure if he played in a pace less midfield two at Forest? but if so i'd be surprised

Pairing him and Westwood without anybody in there with them to add some energy is asking a hell of a lot to my mind

Offline wittonwarrior

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #376 on: August 08, 2016, 01:30:24 PM »
The game passed him by yesterday. By all means let's see what he can offer but I won't put my savings on him sorry

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #377 on: August 08, 2016, 01:41:31 PM »
Another midfield player that has a poor game playing alongside Westwood.

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #378 on: August 08, 2016, 01:44:27 PM »
BR 89 Gardner has had many chances at Villa Park and has been found wanting, good youth player but not a top class Championship player and not a prem player either.
Mc Cormack has played one game, when he has played as often as Gardner then is the time to have a go.

Serious question.

How many games constitute a chance? I can't remember him starting 2 games on the bounce although he probably has. I don't think he's ever had 3-4 games on the trot to play himself in, mainly as whenever he's been fit enough, we've never been in a position to afford the luxury of giving him those games.

When he got the back end of last season at Forest he apparently did well.  It may well be that mid table in this division is his level, but it's not his fault every time he's been in a position to progress either he's done one of ACLs or we've not been in a position to properly give him a chance. I'll agree that it's last chance saloon for him at B6, but it's not much more than 1st chance either.

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #379 on: August 08, 2016, 01:48:38 PM »
Saturday was only his 6th start for us by my reckoning.

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #380 on: August 08, 2016, 02:44:58 PM »
You were at Cambridge then SH.  You would have seen him play well then.

I'm not interested in friendlies only the real thing. He's never cut it at PL and barely got a game out on loan last season in the Championship. That should tell you everything, he's not good enough for Villa. Signing this type of player over the last 6 seasons contributed to our decline and the sooner we rid the club of them the better.

So effectively: "I'm not interested in games that don't fit the idea I already have so I never want to see him play for us again and I'll only accept I might be wrong about him if I see him play for us again."

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #381 on: August 08, 2016, 02:57:11 PM »
You were at Cambridge then SH.  You would have seen him play well then.

I'm not interested in friendlies only the real thing. He's never cut it at PL and barely got a game out on loan last season in the Championship. That should tell you everything, he's not good enough for Villa. Signing this type of player over the last 6 seasons contributed to our decline and the sooner we rid the club of them the better.

So effectively: "I'm not interested in games that don't fit the idea I already have so I never want to see him play for us again and I'll only accept I might be wrong about him if I see him play for us again."

I'm guessing the last time most of us saw Bennett in a competitive game was when he was MoM against Chelsea because Bertrand couldn't play?

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #382 on: August 08, 2016, 03:04:54 PM »
He came on v Notts County last season in the LC and scored a tidy goal.

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #383 on: August 08, 2016, 04:27:35 PM »
He came on v Notts County last season in the LC and scored a tidy goal.
That obviously doesn't count as it was against lower league opposition.
And it was as a sub. He couldn't even start against Notts County. How shit must he be?

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #384 on: August 08, 2016, 04:43:55 PM »
Maybe he would look better in a 3 or with someone more energetic than Westwood. The fact that he made Westwood look like Kante yesterday worries me.

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #385 on: August 08, 2016, 05:54:20 PM »
a proper defensive midfielder would give Gardner more freedom to get forward.

Offline aj2k77

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #386 on: August 08, 2016, 06:00:52 PM »
He came on v Notts County last season in the LC and scored a tidy goal.
That obviously doesn't count as it was against lower league opposition.
And it was as a sub. He couldn't even start against Notts County. How shit must he be?

He is though. He's another that will disappear in to oblivion when his contract is up with us. There's a reason why no one picks him. Bournemouth, Sheff Wed, Paul Lambert, Tim Sherwood, Remi Garde, Di Matteo.

He has a cross on him and that's about it, in fact he'd probably be a better option than Cissokho if we intend to keep playing the fullbacks as our main attacking outlets.

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #387 on: August 08, 2016, 06:09:04 PM »
He came on v Notts County last season in the LC and scored a tidy goal.
That obviously doesn't count as it was against lower league opposition.
And it was as a sub. He couldn't even start against Notts County. How shit must he be?

He is though. He's another that will disappear in to oblivion when his contract is up with us. There's a reason why no one picks him. Bournemouth, Sheff Wed, Paul Lambert, Tim Sherwood, Remi Garde, Di Matteo.

He has a cross on him and that's about it, in fact he'd probably be a better option than Cissokho if we intend to keep playing the fullbacks as our main attacking outlets.

And with you last sentence you get the point, no one thinks he's a world beater and Amavi is clearly a far better player but Bennett at left back at least gives us a threat of getting a decent cross in.

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #388 on: August 08, 2016, 06:18:49 PM »
Maybe he would look better in a 3 or with someone more energetic than Westwood. The fact that he made Westwood look like Kante yesterday worries me.

I've often referred to Westwood as 'Kante'. Well a pretty similar word anyway.

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #389 on: August 08, 2016, 06:59:01 PM »
a proper defensive midfielder would give Gardner more freedom to get forward.

bloody hell what on a mobility scooter?