Our Poor Home Form

[HolteEnder96]

What is it with us at home? 2 home wins and only 7 goals in the league which is the worst in all 4 divisions, we 'set up stall exactly the same away from home' Lambert says but play significantly better, any suggestions as to why this is?

[pauliewalnuts]

I don't know, but I am pretty sure that the longer it goes on, the more confidence becomes an issue.

[Witton Warrior]

Does this need another thread?
It's in every post-match ;-)

[HolteEnder96]

haha maybe not ;-) but it is becoming a joke now, we all pay good money to go and watch what is at the moment, shit.

[villasjf]

Perhaps he who left us in the lurch left a curse on our home form.

[peter w]

Full-backs that don't overlap, and a midfield that either sit too deep or don't look wide to help create space. Then when we are inavriably chasing the game its very haphazard with no midifeld cover for the defense that have gone up front searching for a goal. Its like kids football.

[fredm]

The main point is, which perhaps PL hasn't grasped, is that most teams play slightly different away from home to the way they play at home.  The away team is usually set up to play a more defensive style and it is then the job of the home team to counter this and find a way of attacking them successfully so that they score a goal. If the home team succeeds in scoring a goal then the away team has to change its tactics to enable it to score an equaliser.

So, to say we play exactly the same at home as we do away, is IMO very naive and if it is 100 per cent correct, shows a very poor set of tactics.

[HolteEnder96]

I think 'a poor set of tactics' is his field of expertees, I mean were talking about a man who starts Karim El-Ahmadi..

[not3bad]

With MON as manager and now we relied/rely too much on the counter attacking system, and had/have no creative midfielder to unlock defences at home.  Houlier  tried to change too much too quickly and hence our problems there.  Under Mcleish we were just shit (as we were under DOL towards the end of his reign).

[freethinker]

The Guardian summed it up pretty well in their "FA Cup third round: 10 talking points from this weekend's action"

1) Villa's appalling home record continues

There were plenty of empty seats inside Villa Park on Saturday but it is more remarkable how many home supporters continue to turn up. Villa's record at home over the last two and a-half years has been nothing short of appalling, which is why the 2-1 defeat by League One Sheffield United in the FA Cup was not the shock some might consider it to be. Villa have won only 11 of 48 Premier League home games going back to the start of the 2011-12 season, when Alex McLeish was in charge. Of the 15 teams that have been in the top flight throughout that period, Villa have scored the fewest number of goals and they are the only club to fail to average a point per game in front of their own supporters. Broaden the sample to include all 26 clubs that have featured in the Premier League since 2011-12 and only Wolverhampton Wanderers and Bolton Wanderers, both of whom were relegated, averaged fewer points at home. Villa, in short, are escaping the bottom three purely as a result of their away form, which, in fairness, is remarkably good – they have picked up more points on their travels this season than second-placed Manchester City and as many as third-placed Chelsea. It is not, however, much fun if you are a regular visitor to Villa Park, where victories and entertainment are in short supply. Humiliating cup defeats against lower-league opposition merely compound the misery.

[Phil from the upper holte]

Cough

http://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=50835.0

[Damo70]

The main point is, which perhaps PL hasn't grasped, is that most teams play slightly different away from home to the way they play at home.  The away team is usually set up to play a more defensive style and it is then the job of the home team to counter this and find a way of attacking them successfully so that they score a goal. If the home team succeeds in scoring a goal then the away team has to change its tactics to enable it to score an equaliser.

So, to say we play exactly the same at home as we do away, is IMO very naive and if it is 100 per cent correct, shows a very poor set of tactics.

Exactly what I thought when I heard his quote. The fact that he is proud of having the same set of tactics home and away worries me. Especially as they clearly haven't worked at home since day one.

[ChicagoLion]

The Guardian summed it up pretty well in their "FA Cup third round: 10 talking points from this weekend's action"

1) Villa's appalling home record continues

There were plenty of empty seats inside Villa Park on Saturday but it is more remarkable how many home supporters continue to turn up. Villa's record at home over the last two and a-half years has been nothing short of appalling, which is why the 2-1 defeat by League One Sheffield United in the FA Cup was not the shock some might consider it to be. Villa have won only 11 of 48 Premier League home games going back to the start of the 2011-12 season, when Alex McLeish was in charge. Of the 15 teams that have been in the top flight throughout that period, Villa have scored the fewest number of goals and they are the only club to fail to average a point per game in front of their own supporters. Broaden the sample to include all 26 clubs that have featured in the Premier League since 2011-12 and only Wolverhampton Wanderers and Bolton Wanderers, both of whom were relegated, averaged fewer points at home. Villa, in short, are escaping the bottom three purely as a result of their away form, which, in fairness, is remarkably good – they have picked up more points on their travels this season than second-placed Manchester City and as many as third-placed Chelsea. It is not, however, much fun if you are a regular visitor to Villa Park, where victories and entertainment are in short supply. Humiliating cup defeats against lower-league opposition merely compound the misery.

This is alarming when you see the stats. At some point our away form will return to normality and we will be completely buggered.

[Chipsticks]

In short:

1) Attitude of our fans
2) The fact away teams perceive us still as a big club due to our excellent stadium and and thus the big teams don't rest players
3) The pitch is so big it suits play-makers, of which we have none

[Tony Erdington]

our players , cuz there lower league players with no premiership quality along side them, shit their selves in a ground the size of ours, and the preconceived expectation

Lambert you are making our return to where we where just four years ago harder