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Author Topic: Based on what youve seen in the Summer who would you keep who would showthe door  (Read 23329 times)

Offline Concrete John

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i'm mostly with Dekko, I'm not quite ready to get rid of baker though, I think he can be a decent 4th choice for now.

Agree.

Buy a new first choice CB now, then, when Okore's fit, loan him out to a Championship club to see how he does and potentially put him in the shop window.

Offline hilts_coolerking

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The trouble is with operating on a fairly tight budget is that we can't afford to have any passengers in the squad.  To have a situation where out defence starts leaking goals when one player is out injured is simply unacceptable.  There are players in the team at the moment, let alone the squad, who are contributing next to nothing.

Offline ChicagoLion

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We should be rid of KEA ,Tonev and Bowery it is pretty obvious they are no where near PL standard.

NZogbia Bent Given Hutton Ireland should be off the wage bill pretty soon.

Baker, Clarke, Gardener, Weiman, Sylla, Lowton, Luna, Herd, Bennett, Delfouneso, are squad fillers and should improve or be phased out

That leaves Gabby Okore Vlaar Guzan Kozac Allbrighton Helnius Delf


richtheholtender

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Priority to go

Luna, Bennett, Hutton, Given, Bent, Kea, Bowery, Baker, Delfouneso

Time running out on

Albrighton, Gardner, Tonev, Nzogbia, Herd

Need serious improvement before end of season

Lowton, Weimann, Westwood, Sylla

despite albrighton's recent improvement, he is at an age where he needs regular football and I cant see him getting it at a decent Villa side. Herd and Gardner need to get out of the club to progress. we should be fair to all three and let them leave for low fees.

the addition of quality players to the squad might lift a few of them out of their stupor but really that squad isnt anywhere near what a club like Villa should have available




Definitely this for me, although I would Herd in the out category. I would also give Nzogbia more time when he comes back.

Offline Chipsticks

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We hardly have the depth to go willy-nilly cutting players, this sort of thread really winds me up.

Offline sirlordbaltimore

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I think there could be a massive forward clear out in the summer.

Benteke. Almost certainly
Weimann. Can't see us keeping him if his current wretched form continues
Bowery. No explanation necessary
Delfouneso. Lad needs to do something soon
Agbonlahor. Do we keep him out of his love for the club despite the fact he has maybe one good game in five (and that's being generous) and on a big wage ?


Offline PeterWithesShin

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Apart from the bomb squad KEA is the only one i'm running out of patience with. And even with him I remember how long it took Stan to adjust to the PL.

Offline Ian.

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At the moment no one at all. They all deserve a chance to settle in. A bit more competition and quality players could still bring out the best of them all. Too early to judge the summer signings. Last years were fine, just out of form.

Offline Matt C

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Agree with Ian J, I'd persist with all of them for now, just add to them with some players of quality this month. If the right additions are made then think the likes of Bowery & Gardner might benefit from loan spells elsewhere.

Online paul_e

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The issue is with the squad we have registered

squad lists

25 squad players
Player (Home Grown)
Agbonlahor, Gabriel (Yes)
Albrighton, Marc Kevin (Yes)
Bacuna, Leandro Jones Johan (No) 
Baker, Nathan Luke (Yes)
N'Zogbia, Charles (Yes)
Bennett, Joseph (Yes)
Benteke, Christian (No)
Bowery, Jordan (Yes)
Clark, Ciaran (Yes)
Delph, Fabian (Yes)
El Ahmadi Aroussi, Karim (No)
Given, Shay John James (Yes)
Guzan, Bradley Edwin (No)
Jensen, Nicklaus Helenius (No)
Herd, Christopher (Yes)
Kozak, Libor (No)
Lowton, Matthew John (Yes)
Luna Rodriguez, Antonio Manuel (No)
Stevens, Enda (No)
Stieber, Andras (Yes)
Sylla, Yacouba (No)
Tonev, Aleksandar Antonov (No)
Vlaar, Ron Peter (No)
Weimann, Andreas (Yes)
Westwood, Ashley Roy (Yes)

I guess we can lose Stevens and Steiber without any worries, Given is a possible depending on the length of the loan/subsequent loan and we may as we ll remove Kozak for this year.  So 4 spots, 1 of which is only temporary.

That's probably enough for now but we're going to have to "sell to buy" in the summer as it stands.

Offline lovejoy

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This time last year Vlaar would have been an "out" so lets not be hasty.

Offline Chipsticks

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I think there could be a massive forward clear out in the summer.

Benteke. Almost certainly
Weimann. Can't see us keeping him if his current wretched form continues
Bowery. No explanation necessary
Delfouneso. Lad needs to do something soon
Agbonlahor. Do we keep him out of his love for the club despite the fact he has maybe one good game in five (and that's being generous) and on a big wage ?



Wow.

Offline black pearl of inchicore

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The issue is with the squad we have registered

squad lists

25 squad players
Player (Home Grown)
Agbonlahor, Gabriel (Yes)
Albrighton, Marc Kevin (Yes)
Bacuna, Leandro Jones Johan (No) 
Baker, Nathan Luke (Yes)
N'Zogbia, Charles (Yes)
Bennett, Joseph (Yes)
Benteke, Christian (No)
Bowery, Jordan (Yes)
Clark, Ciaran (Yes)
Delph, Fabian (Yes)
El Ahmadi Aroussi, Karim (No)
Given, Shay John James (Yes)
Guzan, Bradley Edwin (No)
Jensen, Nicklaus Helenius (No)
Herd, Christopher (Yes)
Kozak, Libor (No)
Lowton, Matthew John (Yes)
Luna Rodriguez, Antonio Manuel (No)
Stevens, Enda (No)
Stieber, Andras (Yes)
Sylla, Yacouba (No)
Tonev, Aleksandar Antonov (No)
Vlaar, Ron Peter (No)
Weimann, Andreas (Yes)
Westwood, Ashley Roy (Yes)

I guess we can lose Stevens and Steiber without any worries, Given is a possible depending on the length of the loan/subsequent loan and we may as we ll remove Kozak for this year.  So 4 spots, 1 of which is only temporary.

That's probably enough for now but we're going to have to "sell to buy" in the summer as it stands.

If i didn't know anything about football.....i would hazard a guess and say the above list is a sample of trade's men in the west Midlands area who pass themselves off as dodgy builders....
« Last Edit: January 07, 2014, 11:58:07 PM by black pearl of inchicore »

Offline TheMalandro

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ditch Lambert and let Big Ron decide

Offline oldhill_avfc

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I'd view it slightly differently if I was the manager and ask myself the question "where do we want to finish next season and the season after".  The answer is presumably comfortable mid-table progressing to upper mid table the year after (assuming we survive this year of course!)

Therefore I would assess which which players are capable of holding down (or developing into) a place in an upper mid table squad.

From the squad listed on an earlier post I'd say:

Agbonlahor
Albrighton
N'Zogbia
Benteke
Clark
Delph
Guzan
Vlaar

Okore - probably/unproven

Weimann, Andreas - possibly
Westwood, Ashley Roy - possibly
Kozak - possibly
Baker - possibly
Herd - possibly
Steer - untested

The rest need to be moved on.  None of them are obvious talents (e.g. like Cahill) so if they make it good elsewhere so be it. 

Edit: I'd keep all the untested academy players e.g. Gardner
« Last Edit: January 08, 2014, 09:22:35 AM by oldhill_avfc »

 


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