This is one I have harped on about for years. As well as the managerial curse that is Villa failure, getting us is just as important to be a success.Lambert gets us, regardless of current performances. TSM did get us to a reasonable extent. He was just crap.MON got us for all the good it did ultimately.DOL? Nope.Houllier? Nope.How far shall we go back? I have stuck to the Lerner era only at the minute.
Quote from: Hookeysmith on November 27, 2013, 12:45:44 PMQuote from: pauliewalnuts on November 27, 2013, 10:57:57 AMMy take on Collymore is- he's definitely a Villa fan, and the more of them there are in the media, the better- we didn't get anything like the best out of him- we used to give him plenty of stick, I'm not surprised he reacted- he's had his problems and continues to struggle with them, had our manager at the time been a bit more enlightened, maybe we'd have got more out of him- he's not a bad broadcaster at all. Agree on all pointsWhen Stan said he had problems all i ever heard was "What with his money?"Just goes to show how material things dont matter a jot at timesIt also shows how much things have changed in the last 10-15 years collymore now would have got the support and help he needed, collymore in the mid-90s was told to get on with it.
Quote from: pauliewalnuts on November 27, 2013, 10:57:57 AMMy take on Collymore is- he's definitely a Villa fan, and the more of them there are in the media, the better- we didn't get anything like the best out of him- we used to give him plenty of stick, I'm not surprised he reacted- he's had his problems and continues to struggle with them, had our manager at the time been a bit more enlightened, maybe we'd have got more out of him- he's not a bad broadcaster at all. Agree on all pointsWhen Stan said he had problems all i ever heard was "What with his money?"Just goes to show how material things dont matter a jot at times
My take on Collymore is- he's definitely a Villa fan, and the more of them there are in the media, the better- we didn't get anything like the best out of him- we used to give him plenty of stick, I'm not surprised he reacted- he's had his problems and continues to struggle with them, had our manager at the time been a bit more enlightened, maybe we'd have got more out of him- he's not a bad broadcaster at all.
He might have had some jeers, but nothing like the shit players like Ian Wright got for example.
Quote from: PeterWithesShin on November 25, 2013, 11:53:27 PMHe might have had some jeers, but nothing like the shit players like Ian Wright got for example. I remember giving Ian wright absolutely loads of shit when he was suspended for the cup winners cup final. He scored in the last minute and just stood facing the Holte with his arms out stretchedThe good old days, oddly
Never a Villa fan. He did the same exact thing to the Holte. Hardly the best secret in the world I think he is a twat.
Ron Atkinson tried to buy Stan. He was outbid by Forest, Ellis typically refused to go to 2 million. What a pity, Stan was in his pomp and Atkinson would I think have been a great fit for him. Loved Atkinsons remark many years later that he had "gone out to buy a Colymore and ended up with a cauliflower" He is most certainly a massive Villa fan. We should be happy that someone in the media is.