I can remember there was a similar article on here when McLeish was in charge where he was talking about building for the future,we were all given the impession Lerner was right behind him.He was sacked a week or so later.
Quote from: VillaAlways on December 30, 2013, 12:09:17 PMI can remember there was a similar article on here when McLeish was in charge where he was talking about building for the future,we were all given the impession Lerner was right behind him.He was sacked a week or so later.I think the fans played a huge part in that. We made it clear we didn't want him, which left Lerner with no choice.
Quote from: PaulWinch again on December 30, 2013, 12:23:20 PMQuote from: Ad@m on December 30, 2013, 12:22:01 PMQuote from: PaulWinch again on December 30, 2013, 12:12:21 PMAll this 'vision for the future' would be fine if we looked like we were progressing. I could believe at the end of last season, but at the moment we're going backwards.This time last year we conceded 15 goals without reply in three matches. So far this season we've conceded 25 in total, only 3 more than Man Utd.Yes, we've got some problems to sort, but to suggest that we're going backwards when one of the major problems of last year has been largely resolved is overly negative.If you think our performances have moved forward from the end of last season, then I'd say you're being overly positive. Comparing our performances over Christmas this year to our performances over Christmas last year I'd say we're a million miles ahead. I'm absolutely convinced the team at the moment, even in their current run of poor form, wouldn't ship 8 (eight) goals at Chelsea, nor would they get turned over at home by Wigan.Is the team performing as well as it did towards the end of last season? No, of course not, but given it's largely the same group of players, what's to say they won't turn things around again this season like they did last?
Quote from: Ad@m on December 30, 2013, 12:22:01 PMQuote from: PaulWinch again on December 30, 2013, 12:12:21 PMAll this 'vision for the future' would be fine if we looked like we were progressing. I could believe at the end of last season, but at the moment we're going backwards.This time last year we conceded 15 goals without reply in three matches. So far this season we've conceded 25 in total, only 3 more than Man Utd.Yes, we've got some problems to sort, but to suggest that we're going backwards when one of the major problems of last year has been largely resolved is overly negative.If you think our performances have moved forward from the end of last season, then I'd say you're being overly positive.
Quote from: PaulWinch again on December 30, 2013, 12:12:21 PMAll this 'vision for the future' would be fine if we looked like we were progressing. I could believe at the end of last season, but at the moment we're going backwards.This time last year we conceded 15 goals without reply in three matches. So far this season we've conceded 25 in total, only 3 more than Man Utd.Yes, we've got some problems to sort, but to suggest that we're going backwards when one of the major problems of last year has been largely resolved is overly negative.
All this 'vision for the future' would be fine if we looked like we were progressing. I could believe at the end of last season, but at the moment we're going backwards.
Quote from: VillaAlways on December 30, 2013, 12:09:17 PMI can remember there was a similar article on here when McLeish was in charge where he was talking about building for the future,we were all given the impession Lerner was right behind him.He was sacked a week or so later.Yes, he said it was a total shock as he'd spoken with randy every week and how supportive he was and never had an inkling the sack was coming until the very day it came.
Quote from: eastie on December 30, 2013, 12:27:16 PMQuote from: VillaAlways on December 30, 2013, 12:09:17 PMI can remember there was a similar article on here when McLeish was in charge where he was talking about building for the future,we were all given the impession Lerner was right behind him.He was sacked a week or so later.Yes, he said it was a total shock as he'd spoken with randy every week and how supportive he was and never had an inkling the sack was coming until the very day it came.I don't believe that though, he must have had an inking his days were numbered. Everyone who was at Norwich away knew he was gone, so if he didn't then he was very naïve.
Quote from: Ad@m on December 30, 2013, 12:25:15 PMQuote from: PaulWinch again on December 30, 2013, 12:23:20 PMQuote from: Ad@m on December 30, 2013, 12:22:01 PMQuote from: PaulWinch again on December 30, 2013, 12:12:21 PMAll this 'vision for the future' would be fine if we looked like we were progressing. I could believe at the end of last season, but at the moment we're going backwards.This time last year we conceded 15 goals without reply in three matches. So far this season we've conceded 25 in total, only 3 more than Man Utd.Yes, we've got some problems to sort, but to suggest that we're going backwards when one of the major problems of last year has been largely resolved is overly negative.If you think our performances have moved forward from the end of last season, then I'd say you're being overly positive. Comparing our performances over Christmas this year to our performances over Christmas last year I'd say we're a million miles ahead. I'm absolutely convinced the team at the moment, even in their current run of poor form, wouldn't ship 8 (eight) goals at Chelsea, nor would they get turned over at home by Wigan.Is the team performing as well as it did towards the end of last season? No, of course not, but given it's largely the same group of players, what's to say they won't turn things around again this season like they did last?So it's ok for you to compare the team with a year ago but it's not ok for pwa to compare the team with 7 months ago?
Quote from: Clampy on December 30, 2013, 12:34:42 PMQuote from: eastie on December 30, 2013, 12:27:16 PMQuote from: VillaAlways on December 30, 2013, 12:09:17 PMI can remember there was a similar article on here when McLeish was in charge where he was talking about building for the future,we were all given the impession Lerner was right behind him.He was sacked a week or so later.Yes, he said it was a total shock as he'd spoken with randy every week and how supportive he was and never had an inkling the sack was coming until the very day it came.I don't believe that though, he must have had an inking his days were numbered. Everyone who was at Norwich away knew he was gone, so if he didn't then he was very naïve.Possibly but wasn't that only a day earlier? All the noises from randy and faulkner before his sacking were supportive - i personally think his job is safe but people tell me randy was quite ruthless at times with the browns coaches .
Quote from: eastie on December 30, 2013, 12:32:12 PMQuote from: Ad@m on December 30, 2013, 12:25:15 PMQuote from: PaulWinch again on December 30, 2013, 12:23:20 PMQuote from: Ad@m on December 30, 2013, 12:22:01 PMQuote from: PaulWinch again on December 30, 2013, 12:12:21 PMAll this 'vision for the future' would be fine if we looked like we were progressing. I could believe at the end of last season, but at the moment we're going backwards.This time last year we conceded 15 goals without reply in three matches. So far this season we've conceded 25 in total, only 3 more than Man Utd.Yes, we've got some problems to sort, but to suggest that we're going backwards when one of the major problems of last year has been largely resolved is overly negative.If you think our performances have moved forward from the end of last season, then I'd say you're being overly positive. Comparing our performances over Christmas this year to our performances over Christmas last year I'd say we're a million miles ahead. I'm absolutely convinced the team at the moment, even in their current run of poor form, wouldn't ship 8 (eight) goals at Chelsea, nor would they get turned over at home by Wigan.Is the team performing as well as it did towards the end of last season? No, of course not, but given it's largely the same group of players, what's to say they won't turn things around again this season like they did last?So it's ok for you to compare the team with a year ago but it's not ok for pwa to compare the team with 7 months ago? I never said that.I'm merely pointing out that the same group of players have shown they are capable of both good and bad runs of form and suggesting that because they're currently in a bad run of form means the club is 'going backwards' is nonsense.